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apanderson Administrator
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 2571 Location: Stirlingshire
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Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:37 pm Post subject: Cause of Discharge 'Code' |
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Could anyone enlighten me what this means for a Cause of Discharge on a MIC.
392 (XVI) K.R.
A.0265/17W
Para 2 (B1)
Ta!
Anne |
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David McNay Administrator
Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 11425 Location: Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:17 am Post subject: |
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K.R. is Kings Regulations.
This will be a reference to which section of the regulations the man was discharged under. |
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Stewartry
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 274 Location: nr Nottingham
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:49 am Post subject: |
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392 (XVI) K.R.
Men who left the army did so under King's Regulation Paragraph 392. But there were many reasons for a soldier to be discharged, and the Regulation 392 had many causes categorised. In this case, (xvi) No longer physically fit for service.
Army Order 265 of September 1917 pertains to the issue of the Silver War Badge. Paragraph 2 refers to classes of individual entitled to the badge and b(1) specifically to those "who, having served as soldiers and being still of military age have been discharged after service overseas in the armed forces of the Crown, on account of disablement or ill-health caused otherwise than by misconduct."
Not having seen the specific example, but usually the 'W' indicates discharged due to wounds.
Stuart
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apanderson Administrator
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 2571 Location: Stirlingshire
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:31 am Post subject: |
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Thank you Stuart.
I've attached copies of 2 cards I found for the same man.
Hopefully seeing the actual cards will make a difference.
Anne.
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Stewartry
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Hi Anne,
Yes, a typical example of discharged no longer physically fit for service, in this case, due to wounds. This particular Army Order was used as a tick box for the issue of Silver War Badges.
You probably have access to the SWB rolls but just in case, the additional detail on roll G/A/404 is that his badge was numbered 444225 and he was 23 years old on discharge.
Stuart _________________ www.sonsofgalloway.org.uk
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Stewartry
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Looking at other men with similar numbers, I would suggest that his Gordons number should be S/7113 (based on date of landing in France, so either 9th or 10th Bn) and that his transfer to the Black Watch was near the end of the war (perhaps July 1918), only a few weeks before discharge.
Stuart _________________ www.sonsofgalloway.org.uk
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apanderson Administrator
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 2571 Location: Stirlingshire
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Thanks again Stuart.
I went and had a look for the SWB and found the record containing James.
I googled 'SWB' and now know what it's all about!
Anne |
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spoons
Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 4991 Location: St John's Town of Dalry
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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apanderson wrote: | Thanks again Stuart.
I went and had a look for the SWB and found the record containing James.
I googled 'SWB' and now know what it's all about!
Anne |
Just two days ago in a talk to primary pupils, I showed them an SWB and explained that one of its main uses was as a defence against being given a white feather for cowardice. No exaggeration to say that they were horrified.
\Paul |
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apanderson Administrator
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you both.
Anne |
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