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Lt. John S Agnew HLI ** now commemorated**

 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:57 pm    Post subject: Lt. John S Agnew HLI ** now commemorated** Reply with quote

On the Penninghame Parish War Memorial in Newton Stewart, Wigtownshire the last name is that of Lt. John S. Agnew.
He is listed on the Penninghame Parish Church Memorial as
Lieut. Rev. John S Agnew - I think this is he:

AGNEW, JOHN SIMPSON
Rank:Lieutenant
Date of Death:28/12/1920
Age:32
Regiment/Service:Highland Light Infantry
2nd Bn.attd 1/5th Bn.
Panel Reference
MemorialUNITED KINGDOM BOOK OF REMEMBRANCE
Additional Information:
Son of John Simpson and Agnes Agnew; husband of Elizabeth Jane Agnew, of Glasgow.

His second name was SIMSON.

He died in Paisley Infirmary (usual Res. George Hotel, Paisley) of Diabetes Mellitus Coma and gunshot wound of left arm with abscess formation. He was Minister of Yoker Parish (Army Pensioner) and married to Elizabeth Jane Campbell.

If it's the same man, he is listed in the "Probationers and Students of Divinity" section of the memorial in St. Giles in Edinburgh as J. S. Agnew M.A.
He is on the SNWM database but not on SDGW.

Does the fact that he is in the Book of Remembrance suggest that he is a recent addition to the CWGC Register?
Anyone know anything about him?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:55 pm    Post subject: Rev Lt. John S Agnew, HLI Reply with quote

Ken

This is the same man and one I put forward as a non comm to MOD / CWGC in Sept 2010, he was accepted in October 2011. I don't promote my personal cases on this Forum

12191, Pte. John Simpson Agnew, Clergyman enlisted into the Scots Guards at Denbeath on 12th November 1914. He declared he was born in the Parish of Cunninghame, Wigtonshire and that he had served three years in the Galloway Rifle Volunteers.

His NOK was given as his mother Agnes Stewart or Agnew, Tannery House, Newton Stewart. He served in France from 8th April 1915 but was discharged at London on 22nd October 1915 to reside at Minigaff, Newton Stewart having been appointed to a commission in the Highland Light Infantry.

He joined the 1st / 5th HLI (attached from the 13th) at Mahamdiya on 26th July 1916. He was wounded near Gaza on 12 April 1917 and rejoined the battalion on 2nd July. He was wounded in action (GSW left shoulder ) on 30th November and invalided to UK from Alexandria on 21st January 1918.

Lt Agnew died at the Royal Alexandra Infirmary, Paisley on 29th December 1920 as a result of Diabetes Mellitus in connection with wounds received in action.

His DC records John Simpson Agnew, age 32, Minister of Yoker Parish ( Army pensioner), residing at the George Hotel, Paisley died at the Infirmary, Paisley on 28th December 1920. The Informant was his sister Stewart Crawford residig at Beith.

Do you know where he is buried? If so I would be interested in the detail
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Jim. Suspicions confirmed Smile
I was initially curious about his "late" addition to the Penninghame Memorial and then the Book of Remembrance caught my attention.

Do you know where he got his M.A.?

I'm sorry but I don't know where he is buried.
The death register entry is really "odd". It took an RCE to change the register to show that he was married and to whom. I wonder why his wife didn't register his death Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:15 pm    Post subject: Rev Lt. John S Agnew, HLI Reply with quote

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No idea about MA.
It is clear from letters to his wife among records he had married and had a son with these details not being known to his family. This accounts for the Corrected Entry ( RCE ) whereby his marital status and wife’s details are added to the entry made by his sister.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim - all the while we have been discussing this man a little bell has been ringing in the back of my mind.
On the Penninghame Parish Church Memorial there are two men named Agnew - the Lt John we have been discussing and a Sgt W. Agnew.
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=2392
I have now remembered that William Agnew is mentioned on a family grave in Minnigaff Churchyard (but not on any local civic War Memorial) and he is John's brother.

WILLIAM AGNEW – age 41 – Sergeant (4039) 1/5th (Dumfries and Galloway) Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
William was a Compositor with the Galloway Gazette when he enlisted in August 1914. He was badly wounded by shrapnel on 1st July 1915 at Gallipoli and was discharged as no longer fit for active service in November 1915.
Born 1878 in Penninghame, Wigtownshire.
Son of John Simpson Agnew and of Agnes (Stewart) Agnew.
Husband of Christina (Cuthbertson) Agnew of Creebridge, Minnigaff who he married in 1907 in Minnigaff.
Died – 11 April 1920 of pneumonia at home in Creebridge.
Buried in Minnigaff Parish Churchyard.
He is not listed by CWGC/SNWM - his DCert makes no reference to his wounds.
(Stuart "Stewartry" provided most of the above information)

This grave is for William and his wife Christina (and a daughter). There is no mention of other members of William's family nor do they appear on any other gravestone in Minnigaff (I have the FHS book of MI's)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to research by DelBoy we have a newspaper report of Lt John S Agnew's burial in Paisley (Hawkshead) Cemetery.
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:54 pm    Post subject: Rev. Lt. John Simpson Agnew - H.L.I. Reply with quote

I have now had it confirmed that Rev. Lt. John Simpson Agnew is buried at Hawkhead Cemetery, Paisley.

CWGC are now aware of this information and their record will be updated in due course.

His case was accepted by MOD on 28th October 2011.








12191, Pte. John Simpson Agnew, Clergyman enlisted into the Scots Guards at Denbeath on 12th November 1914. He declared he was born in the Parish of Cunninghame, Wigtonshire and that he had served three years in the Galloway Rifle Volunteers.

His NOK is given as his mother Agnes Stewart or Agnew, Tannery House, Newton Stewart. He served in France from 8th April 1915 but was discharged at London on 22nd October 1915 to reside at Minigaff, Newton Stewart having been appointed to a commission in the Highland Light Infantry.

He joined the 1st / 5th HLI (attached from the 13th) at Mahamdiya on 26th July 1916. He was wounded near Gaza on 12 April 1917 and rejoined the battalion on 2nd July. He was wounded in action (GSW left shoulder ) on 30th November and invalided to UK from Alexandria on 21st January 1918.

Lt John S Agnew, Minigaff, Newton Stewart, 13th (attached 1st/5th ) HLI arrives at Avonmouth from Alexandria on 1st Feb 1918 due to wounds. He was discharged from Edinburgh War Hospital, Bangour by a Medical Board on 16th Feb 1919 and invalided out of the service due to his wounds on 22nd April 1919.

Lt Agnew died at the Royal Alexandra Infirmary, Paisley on 29th December 1920 as a result of Diabetes Mellitus in connection with wounds received in action.
A letter from the hospital, signed by the doctor who certified the death, states he was admitted there on 14th Sept 1920 when he had an operation on a GSW, left arm, with abscess formation. He was dismissed on the 27th but attended for dressings for some time. He was re-admitted on 27th December with the same abscess problem and underwent surgery when sugar was found in his urine. He became semi-comatose, later unconscious and died during the evening of the 28th. Dr Montgomery opines that his death due to Diabetes Mellitus was brought on by war service and his wounds.

A letter from his solicitor in 1924 states that the Pensions Office have accepted he died of disease attributable to, or aggravated, military service. A letter to Lt Agnew from the War Office of 1st April 1919 also states his commission has been relinquished due to ill health caused by wounds

His DC records John Simpson Agnew, age 32, Minister of Yoker Parish ( Army pensioner), residing at the George Hotel, Paisley died at the Infirmary, Paisley on 28th December 1920. Cause is given as Diabetes mellitus, old GSW of left arm with abscess formation. The informant was his sister Stewart Crawford.
It is clear from letters to his wife that he had married and had a son with these details not being known to his family. This accounts for the RCE whereby his marital status and wife’s details are added to the entry made by his sister.


AGNEW, JOHN SIMPSON

Rank: Lieutenant
Date of Death: 28/12/1920
Age: 32
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
2nd Bn.attd 1/5th Bn.

Memorial UNITED KINGDOM BOOK OF REMEMBRANCE

Additional Information: Son of John Simpson and Agnes Agnew; husband of Elizabeth Jane Agnew, of Glasgow.


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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My notes from the Penninghame Parish War Memorial in Newton Stewart, Wigtownshire.
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1259&start=0
John Simpson Agnew, Lieutenant: 2nd Bn. attached to the 1/5th Bn. Highland Light Infantry. Formerly Private (12191) Scots Guards. Age 32.
Born 1888 in Penninghame. Son of John Simpson Agnew and of Agnes (Stewart) Agnew. Husband of Elizabeth Jane (Campbell) Agnew who he married in 1910 in Glasgow. John was educated at the Ewart High School in Newton Stewart and at Glasgow University where he was awarded an M.A. in 1909. He was a clergyman when he enlisted in November 1914 and was wounded at Festubert. In October 1915 he was commissioned and joined the 1/5th HLI in Egypt but was badly wounded in Palestine and invalided home. After he was discharged he was involved in welfare work in Paisley and had just been accepted as the Minister of Yoker Parish Church when he was admitted to Paisley Infirmary where on 28 December 1920 he died from illness related to his wounds.
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting that this "family plot" will now have two War Graves, one from each conflict.

JAMISON, JOHN CRAWFORD
Rank:Able Seaman
Service No:C/JX 240190
Date of Death:10/01/1942
Age:20
Regiment/Service:Royal Navy
H.M.S. Vimiera
Grave ReferenceSec. H. Grave 528.
CemeteryPAISLEY (HAWKHEAD) CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of William and Mary Jamison, of Paisley.
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The follow Obit. appeared in the Highland Light Infantry Chronicle in 1921.

REV. J. S. AGNEW, LATE LIEUT.
5th H.L.I.
IT is with great regret we record the death of
the Rev. J. S. Agnew, who died at PaIsley on
28th December last. Before the war a
minister at Wemyss (East Wemyss, Kirkcaldy), he joined the Scots
Guards soon after the outbreak, and served
as a private in France, being wounded at
Festubert. On recovering from that wound
he obtained a Commission and joined the
5th H.L.I. in Sinai early in 1916. Few who
met Agnew will ever forget him. In stature
and build he was a giant, and his endurance
was worthy of his frame. One recalls the
march from Mahomidiyeh to Katia after the
battle of Romani; the Khamsin heat was
intense, and many men collapsed. Agnew's
great form loomed up at the head of his
platoon burdened with two packs and two
rifles, his example doing more to encourage
his men than many words. His monkey,
"The Bint," was well known, and accompanied
him on many a wander in the desert.
At the beginning of the second battle of
Gaza, in the minor operation of taking the
Bourjalieh Garden, he was wounded in the
arm. Later on he became our intelligence
officer-work for which he was well qualified.
In the Turkish attacks on our line at Tahta,
in November, 1917, he received a severe wound
in the shoulder and was invalided home.
After his discharge he was engaged for some
time in welfare work in Paisley, and only
recently had accepted a call to a church at
Yoker. A further operation was required to
his shoulder last Septelmber, and though he
appeared to have recovered, it was from the
effects of his old wound that he died. He was
buried with military honours. We who knew
him appreciate that the Church has lost a
man of striking personality and great influence,
and that we ourselves have lost a, true frlend.
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

His name also appears on the Ewart High School Remembrance Panel.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim (kinnethmont) wrote : It is clear from letters to his wife that he had married and had a son with these details not being known to his family. This accounts for the RCE whereby his marital status and wife’s details are added to the entry made by his sister.

William Craigie Agnew was born in 1910 in Glasgow, the son of John and Elizabeth Jane (Campbell) Agnew. In the 1920's he attended Stewart's Melville College and played Rugby for the College, the Former Pupils and, in 1930, for Scotland against Wales and Ireland.
He died in 1961 in Wandsworth, London.
Elizabeth Jane died at Boswell Gardens, Leith in 1954 aged 71.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AGNEW, JOHN SIMPSON.
Rank:Lieutenant
Date of Death:28/12/1920
Age:32
Regiment/Service:Highland Light Infantry 2nd Bn. attd 1st/5th Bn.
Grave Reference:H. 527.
Cemetery:PAISLEY (HAWKHEAD) CEMETERY
Additional Information:Son of John S. and Agnes Agnew; husband of Elizabeth Jane Agnew, of Glasgow.
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