The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project

apanderson · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:12 pm Post subject: FALKIRK, BOER WAR

Situated between Newmarket Street and Upper Newmarket Street, right in the centre of Falkirk.

DerekR · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject:

I like that.
It bears a striking similarity to another memorial but I can't remember where Embarassed

Any idea of the sculptor?
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apanderson · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:35 pm Post subject:

I had a wee look to see if there was a name anywhere but couldn't see anything. (It's not listed on the UKNIWM site or anywhere else that I can find, but I'll keep looking!)

Anne

Adam Brown · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:48 pm Post subject:

DerekR · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject:

Adam,
YIP!
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clarkc_bpo · Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 25

Hi all,

Slightly off-topic, I know, but do any of you guys know where the enlistment records of the Argylls in Falkirk for the Great War are kept ? I've search the National Archives but it's tricky and haven;t got anywhere.

regards

Clark

apanderson · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject:

Hi Clark,

Have you tried Falkirk Archives?

http://www.falkirk.gov.uk/services/community/cultural_services/museums/museums_and_archives.aspx

Anne

clarkc_bpo · Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 25

Hi,

I haven't so thanks for the tip. Being through in Fife I'm not really sure what is and is not available in Falkirk. I'll contact them, so thanks once again.

Clark

David McNay · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:46 am Post subject:

I believe iof they still exist they are in the National Archives at Kew. WO97 I believe, although someone more knowledgable will no doubt correct that if it's wrong.

Any names you're looking for? I might be able to help.

apanderson · Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:46 am Post subject:

Better late than never - transcription from the panel:

Falkirk Boer War

Erected in honour of The Officers and Men belonging to the Eastern District of Stirlngshire
Who fell in the Service of their Country during the South African War 1899 – 1902

FORBES, Dudley Henry, Captain, 3rd Battalion The Royal Scots
*HUNTER, John, Lieutenant, 4th Volunteer Battalion Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (also on Stirling Boer War Memorial)

COULTER, James, Private, 7th Dragoon Guards
BEGLAND, David, Bombardier, Royal Field Artillery
ANDERSON, John, Private, Scots Guards
WILSON, James, Private, Scots Guards
JACK, Andrew, Private, The Cameronians
DUNSMORE, Henry, Private, The Border Regiment
SCOTT, Andrew, Private, The Black Watch
GALLOWAY, John, Private, The Black Watch
SPROUL, Thomas, Private, The Highland Light Infantry
WARDROP, William, Private, The Highland Light Infantry
SNEDDON, Robert, Private, The Highland Light Infantry
LIDDLE, Matthew, Lance-Corporal, Seaforth Highlanders
HENDERSON, James, Private, Seaforth Highlanders
SINCLAIR, Daniel, Private, Seaforth Highlanders
BRYDON, Charles Johnston, Corporal, The Gordon Highlanders
ALLISON, James, Private, The Gordon Highlanders
CUNNINGHAM, Archibald, Private, The Gordon Highlanders
HALLEY, George, Lance-Corporal, The Queen’s Own Cameron Highlanders
CURRIE, John, Private, Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (Also on Stirling Boer War Memorial)
HARLEY, William, Private, Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (Also on Stirling Boer War Memorial)
HAY, John, Private, Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (Also on Stirling Boer War Memorial)
McBETH, James, Private, Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (Also on Stirling Boer War Memorial
STENHOUSE, James, Private, Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (Also on Stirling Boer War Memorial but listed as L/Cpl.)
WIGGINS, James, Private, Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (Also on Stirling Boer War Memorial)
SCOTT, James, Private, Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (Also on Stirling Boer War Memorial)
*PENMAN, George G., Corporal, Royal Army Medical Corps
LYON, Archibald, Private, 3rd Battalion Highland Light Infantry
ANDERSON, William, Private, 3rd Battalion Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders
BLACKHALL, Robert, Private, 3rd Battalion Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders
ROSS, James Williamson, Private, Imperial Yeomanry
STEWART, James, Private, Imperial Yeomanry
*PEDDIE-WADDELL, George Ralston, Private, Imperial Yeomanry (see http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1236)
AITKEN, John, Private, Scottish Horse
ALLAN, Charles Monteith, Private, Driscoll’s Scouts
BASTARDE, William Graham, Private, South African Constabulary
GRANT, James, Private, Scott’s Railway Guards

* See next message for additional information

Anne

apanderson · Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:24 am Post subject:

Some more info on 3 of the above men.

John Hunter
Lieutenant, 4th Volunteer Coy., Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders
Eldest son of Robert Hunter, Glenfuir, Falkirk
Died at Heilbron, South Africa while on active service, 11th July 1900, Aged 22
Family Memorial in Camelon (Falkirk) Cemetery

George G. Penman
Corporal, Royal Army Medical Corps
Son of Robert & Mary Penman (nee Gibb)
Died at Bloemfontain, South Africa, 12th November 1900, Aged 25
Family Memorial in Camelon (Falkirk) Cemetery

George Ralston Peddie-Waddell
Private/Trooper, 19th Coy. Lothians & Berwickshire Imperial Yeomanry
Son of Mr. & Mrs. Peddie-Waddell, Balquhatstone
Died at Johannesburg, South Africa, (Germiston, Transvaal) 8th February 1901, Aged 26
Family Memorial in Slamannan Churchyard
Memorial in Slamannan Village (Erected by the Tenantry & Inhabitants of Slamannan and Neighbourhood)
Lothian & Border Horse War Memorial, Dunbar

Adam Brown · Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject:

Anne

The following men are listed on the forum. The others may be listed as well but I haven't had a chance to look yet:

Th following three men are listed on the Seaforth's memorial in Dingwall

LIDDLE, Matthew, Lance-Corporal, Seaforth Highlanders

LIDDLE , M , Lance Corporal , 6013 , 2nd Bn Seaforth Highlanders , Died of wounds , 19.2.1900 , Paardeberg

HENDERSON, James, Private, Seaforth Highlanders

HENDERSON , J , Private , 5168 , 1st Bn attached 18th Mounted Infantry Company, Seaforth Highlanders , Killed in action , 9.5.1902 , Houtenbek

SINCLAIR, Daniel, Private, Seaforth Highlanders

Sinclair , D , Private , 2614 , 2nd Bn Seaforth Highlanders , Killed in action , 18.2.1900 , Paardeberg

The following men are listed on the 3rd Argyll's memorial

ANDERSON, William, Private, 3rd Battalion Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders

4505 Pte. W. Anderson

BLACKHALL, Robert, Private, 3rd Battalion Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders

3822 Pte. R. Blackhall

The following man is listed on the Cameronian's memorials in Glasgow and in Hamilton

JACK, Andrew, Private, The Cameronians

The following man is listed on the HLI memorials in Kelvingrove and in St Giles, Edinburgh

LYON, Archibald, Private, 3rd Battalion Highland Light Infantry

The following man is listed on the Scottish Horse memorial on the Esplanade at Edinburgh castle

AITKEN, John, Private, Scottish Horse

apanderson · Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject:

I was presuming all these men would be Falkirk 'Bairns' as they were mentioned on the Falkirk Memorial? Wrong again? Confused

Anne

Note to self: "No . . . . correct this time - Gold Star for actually reading the inscription correctly"
They might not be 'Bairns' but they were all from East Stirlingshire - or is that a football team?

ahr63 · Joined: 15 Aug 2012 Posts: 5 Location: United Kingdom

In July 1904 the competition for a design for a memorial to the dead of the Boer War was won by John Campbell, a pupil teacher at the Falkirk Science and Art School, a 20 year old Falkirk Bairn. The sculptor was W Grant Stevenson, RSA. He also sculpted the Burns statue at Kilmarnock and the Wallace statue at Aberdeen. The memorial was unveiled in October 1906 by Lord Roberts, VC.

Adam Brown · Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:35 pm Post subject:

Ahr63

Do you know if either designer or sculptor also did the Argylls memorial on Stirling Castle Esplanade? They are quite similar. (And I take it any Argylls listed on the Falkirk memorial are also listed on the regimental memorial)

Thanks

Adam