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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:39 pm    Post subject: Govanhill Trinity Church Reply with quote

Govanhill Trinity Church, 28 Daisy Street, Glasgow G42 8JL

OS Grid Ref: NS 586626






TO THE GLORY OF GOD AND IN GRATEFUL MEMORY OF
THE MEN OF THIS CONGREGATION WHO FELL IN THE GREAT WAR

Robert Bruce
Hugh Brodie
Andrew Buchanan
Robert Buchanan
Alexander McA. Campbell
John Gibb Crombie
William Crosbie
Jack W. Cook
James R. Campbell
Alexander M. Dow
Peter Dow
William Dow
James S. Edwards
William Edwards
Walter Forbes
Andrew Gilchrist
Ninian Johnston
William Kennedy
Donald Kennedy
William D. Lyle
John Moffat
Stewart M. Moffat
William Murray
Joseph K. Murdoch
Archibald McCurdie
John McDonald
Peter S. McClelland
Duncan McIsaac
Charles McKerrow
James A. McPherson
Andrew Neilson
James Paterson
John l. Porteous
Robert Robertson
Douglas Richardson
Andrew S. Rule
John R. Stewart
James Shaw
Joseph Smith
James C. Scott
Claud B. Scott
John M. Smith
William Staines
William M. Thomson
Thomas McL. Walker
Alexander Webster
Robert McC. Wilson

This tablet is dedicated together with the individual communion cup service in use in this church.

ALSO IN THE SECOND WORLD – WAR
1939 – 1945

John T. Alexander
Edward C. Buckley
George Dunn
John Livingstone
George M. McDonald
John M. Macdonald
Peter McGregor
Robert Martin
Peter H. Mitchell
James M. Muir
David G. Peden
George Ross
Walter Scott
John R. Stewart
Charles A. Wilson
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:41 pm    Post subject: Govanhill Trinity Church Reply with quote



TO THE GLORY OF GOD AND IN MEMORY OF THOSE FROM
GOVANHILL PARISH CHURCH WHO FELL IN THE GREAT WAR

Frank W. Aitken
Norman M. Aitken
James Bain
John C. Bain
James Baird
John Blain
William J. Blain
John K. Campbell
James W. Christie
John Douglas
Cecil R. Duncan
Arthur Durman
Frederick Durman
Alexander Easton
John H. Flint
Andrew Gray
Robert Halliday
John C. Harper
John Horsburgh
David I. Johnston
Charles Kelly
John Kennedy
Matthew King
Alex. G.B. Lawson
Allan B. Mauchline
John F. Miller
James Moffat
Frederick B. Muir
William Murdoch
William McCallum
William Macfarlane
Donald S. McInnes
Neil G. McKinnon
William R. Ness
Robert F. Ogden
Oswald Petricher
George Reid
Alex. M. Robbie
Thomas E. Shedden
George Small
Joseph Smith
Robert Steven
James Steven
Robert D. Stevenson
James Stoddart
Jack Turnbull
Thomas R. Turnbull
Douglas A. Wright
John W. Wylie

“At the going down of the Sun and in the morning we will remember them”

John
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great photos yet again John!

The two Durmans on the Govanhill Memorial - I wonder if they're related as it's not a common name?

DURMAN, FRED
Rank: Private
Service No: 65297
Date of Death: 06/11/1917
Age: 25
Regiment/Service: Canadian Infantry
24th Bn.
Grave Reference III. A. 11.
Cemetery: YPRES TOWN CEMETERY EXTENSION
Additional Information: Son of the late Serjt. Maj. F. J. Durman (3rd Hussars) and Mrs. M. E. Durman, of 206, Belgrave Avenue, Notre Dame de Grace, Montreal. Glasgow, Scotland.

Or .... Frederick Durman, 184198, RGA (Medal Card)

Maybe this is the other man?

DURMAN, A
Rank: Lieutenant
Date of Death: 15/10/1917
Regiment/Service: Canadian Infantry
24th Bn.
Awards: M C
Grave Reference: VI. K. 23.
Cemetery: ECOIVRES MILITARY CEMETERY, MONT-ST. ELOI
Additional Information:

Or .....

Arthur Durman, 329062, RGA (Medal Card)?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the 1901 Census, living at 6 Garturk Street, Gorbals (from transcription, so may not be completely accurate):

Head of Household: Mary E. Durman, age 35, born England
Son Joseph age 14, born England
Son Arthur age 12, born Ireland
Daughter Christina Durman, age 10, born Ireland
Son Frederick, age 8, born England
Daughter Nora, age 7, born Glasgow
Son William, age 6, born Glasgow
Son Frank, age 3, born Glasgow
Daughter Mariel (Muriel) , age 1, born Glasgow

In the 1891, the family were living at No. 2 Bell View Terrace, Kenton, Devon - Head of Household listed as Joseph Durman, age 35, Sergt. Major, 1st Devon Yeomanry, born Newbridge, Ireland.

Son Arthur's birthplace is confirmed as Ireland (Limerick).

In October 1921, Mary and son Frank crossed the border from Montreal, Canada to U.S. listed that the next of kin was listed as son Joseph Durman, 186 ....? Street, Glasgow.

She sailed 'home' to Canada on board S.S. 'San Bruno' (First Class) on 27th May 1923. Her marital status - widow, birthplace - England, citizenship - Canadian, religion - Presbyterian.

The objective of her journey was stated as 'Returning Home' to permanently reside in Canada. Her Canadian address was 46 Belgrave Avenue, Notre Dame de Grace and her visit had been to visit her married daughter.

Her first arrival in Canada was in November 1918.

I can't find anything on either Arthur or Frederick being abroad though?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Google to the rescue!!!!

Gravestone in Cathcart Cemetery:

Sgt Major Joseph Durman, 3rd Hussars, on Jan 26th 1901.
Lieut. A Durman M.C. on Oct 15th 1917.
Pte. Fred Durman on Nov 6th 1917, both of 24th Batt. E.F.

Pte. Wm Durman R.S. on Feb 20th 1919, interred in Montreal.
Christina, wife of F.S. Budden on April 26th 1936, interred Montreal.
Mary Ellen Moore, wife of Joseph Durman, June 16th 1936

Anne
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anne,

They are listed in the Glasgow Roll of honour.
DURMAN Arthur Lieutenant Canadian Expeditionary Force 186 Allison Street.
DURMAN Frederick Private Canadian Expeditionary Force 186 Allison Street.
Allison Street is in the Govanhill District of Glasgow.

John
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarassed Embarassed

I keep forgetting about that!

Still, a wee bit of family history never goes amiss.

Anne
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both give their mother at 186 Allison St. as next of kin on attestation papers. Frederick was born in Star Cross Devon.

I think this is William
DURMAN, THOMAS W.
Rank:Private
Service No:2/22268
Date of Death:20/02/1919
Regiment/Service:Royal Scots
Grave ReferenceSoldiers. S. G. G. 932/G.
CemeteryMONTREAL (MOUNT ROYAL) CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of Mrs. M. A. Durman, of 134, Belgrave Avenue, Montreal.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what is this man doing at Govanhill Parish Church?

PETRICHER, JOSEPH OSWALD
Rank:Able Seaman
Service No:Clyde Z/1523
Date of Death:13/07/1915
Age:26
Regiment/Service:Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve
Nelson Bn. R.N. Div.
Panel ReferencePanel 8 to 15.
MemorialHELLES MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of the late Dr. L. J. and Mrs. Petricher, of Port Louis, Mauritius.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken,

He is also on the Glasgow Roll of Honour.

PETRICHER Oswald Able Seaman Royal Navy - Royal Naval Division 230 Calder Street Govanhill.

John
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's only one Petricher on scotlandspeople.

In 1911 Oswald was at 230 Calder St. living with his aunt Agnes Tweedale 55 and her two daughters, Euphima 33 and Margaret 28.
Oswald 21 was an apprentice engineer in a Locomotive Works. Born Mauritius, British Subject by parentage.
Lodgers were Thomas Rintoul 28 an Engine Driver from Perthshire (Redgorton) and Donald McDonald 23 a Glasgow Policeman from Invernessshire (Balf????)
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