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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:13 am    Post subject: Hawick - St Andrew's Church Parishioners (T) Reply with quote

Hawick - St Andrew's Church Parishioners
Now located in Hawick Trinity Church.
UKNIWM Ref: 44227
OS Map Ref: NT 504 149

A war memorial tablet was unveiled in St.Andrew's church in April 1921 by Mr Andrew Renwick.
The service was conducted by the Rev.Professsor D.M.Kay, D.D., D.S.O, St.Andrew's University.

In 1922, the church was gutted by fire and never rebuilt.
I don't know if the existing tablet is the origial or post 1922 replacement.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are 28 names commemorated on the Great War panel:

"To the glory of God and in ever
grateful memory of the men of this
congregation who gave their
lives in the Great War 1914-1918"

James I. Anderson
William A. Aimers jnr
John Cairncross
Frank Cavers
John Cavers
James Clark
Robert Douglas
Charles Duff
Thomas Fletcher
Gilbert Fairbairn
William B. Fairbairn
Stewart Morley
Valentine Marchbank
William Reid
Robert Reid
William Redpath
Thomas Rutherford
Andrew Rutherford
John Rose
James A. Renwick
William E. Ronaldson
William Sherriff
Frank Sherriff
Adam M. Smith
William M. Scott
Robert A. Suckley
Robert Turnbull
John Wood
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And 6 names listed for WW2:

Robinson S.D. Armstrong
Thomas Cairncross
David C. Spiden
Gideon Carincross
George Millar
Robert Waugh
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is possibly the John Rose named in this memorial.

ROSE, John Carson Private 515 1st/4th Bn King's Own Scottish Borderers
Born: Belfast, Co Antrim Resided: Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland Resided: Hawick.
Age: 23 Date of Death: 12/07/1915 Cause: Killed in action (Initially reported as missing).
Family Notes: Son of, the late Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Henry Rose, of Whitewell, Belfast.
Other notes: Private Rose’s Medal Index Card shows him as entering the Gallipoli Theatre of Operations on 4/6/1915; the Index Card also shows him as “MPD 12/7/1915 (Missing Presumed Dead).
Special Notes: Private Rose is listed on the IWM records as “killed in action, Dardanelles; July 12, 1915.”
Grave/Memorial: Panel 84 to 92 or 220 to 222. Helles Memorial.
Other memorials: Private Rose is named in the Scottish Roll of Honour in the Scottish National War Memorial, Edinburgh Castle, Edinburgh; he is also named in the Hawick Municipal Roll of Honour which is housed in Wilton Lodge Museum, Hawick
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 99.9% sure it is as there is no other man of that name in the Hawick area at that time.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Hawick - St Andrew's Church Parishioners (T) Reply with quote

DerekR wrote:
In 1922, the church was gutted by fire and never rebuilt.
I don't know if the existing tablet is the original or post 1922 replacement.

From The Scotsman 24 March 1924.

    ECCLESIASTICAL

    RE-OPENING OF A HAWICK CHURCH.— St Andrew's U.F. Church, Hawick, which was destroyed by fire about eighteen months ago, has now been restored, and the re-dedication service took place yesterday forenoon, when the Rev. James Wotherspoon, of Allars Church, officiated. The Rev. J Mowat, minister of the congregation, preached in the evening.

The question remains, though, original or replacement memorial?

Various articles over the years in The Scotsman imply that St Andrew's, Hawick survived at least until 1947, when a new minister took up his post there.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADP,

Thank you for putting me right.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks for your response, I thought that he was the most likely candidate but just need a second opinion.

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2021 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David C. Spiden

Named on the Duns Burgh and Parish War Memorial in Berwickshire as:

FLT. SGT. D.C. SPIDEN.
David Christie Spiden – age 27 – Sergeant (950495) 115 Squadron, Bomber Command, Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve.
David was educated at the Berwickshire High School in Duns before being employed by the Post Office in 1933, becoming a sorting clerk and telegraphist in Elgin in 1935. He was on the staff at Hawick Post Office when he enlisted in June 1940 and his duties initially were clerical but he volunteered for air crew and he was trained as a Flight Engineer. His Lancaster bomber had taken off from RAF Witchford in Cambridgeshire for a raid on the Krupps steelworks in Essen but the aircraft crashed near Mulheim and the crew were buried there. They were re-interred in August 1947.
Born 1917 in Berwick-upon-Tweed, Northumberland. Son of John Tunnah Spiden and Mary (Edgar) Spiden of 4 The Crescent, Duns.
Killed in Action on 25 October 1944 and buried in Reichswald Forest War Cemetery, Germany.
Also named on the Berwickshire High School memorial.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

St Andrew's church on Bridge Street was demolished in 1960. Site became a petrol station which is now a car wash.
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