The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project

dhubthaigh · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: INCHTURE

Situated in the village of Inchture
Map Information Location:
Grid ref: NO280288
Web Address: www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=56.4464&lon=-3.168&scale=10000&icon=x

On the face of the plinth below the cross it reads;
TO
THE MEMORY OF
THE MEN
IN THIS NEIGHBOURHOOD
WHO FELL
IN THE GREAT WAR
1914-19

The reverse reads;
THEIR
NAME LIVETH
FOR EVERMORE

On three sides of the face of the third step it says;
THANKS BE TO GOD
WHICH GIVETH US THE VICTORY
THROUGH OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST

The Great War name plates have been more recently fixed. I don't know why the names appear as they do. I thought perhaps it may be date order but this isn't the case.

dhubthaigh · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject:

This name would 'appear' to have been added more recently given the colouration.

DerekR · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject:

This is the second memorial in recent days which as the names added on metal plaques.
Do you think that the Great War names were originally carved directly into the stone underneath the metalwork as it seems strange that the Second World War names are inscribed (and look badly weathered)?
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dhubthaigh · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject:

Derek,
I think that is exactly the case. The names have become weather worn and there have been new plaques added.
The first time I encountered this was at Aberuthven.
I think that this will happen with many more in the near future.

DelBoy · Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:49 am Post subject:

WW1

Alexander Wanless
James Runciman
Alexander Hutchison
Arthur Hutchison
James Smith
George Gregory
John Reid
Andrew Page
John Carmichael
George Smith
Robert Berwick
Stanley Hart

Douglas Kinnaird
Arthur Kinnaird
Alexander McKiddie
Robert Pitkeathly
Robert Martin
James Martin
Douglas Clark
Bruce Clark
Albert Oldring
Neil Cowan
Duncan Imlay
Alexander Shaw

WW2

Frederick Christie
Colin Hunter
James Kinloch
Robert Knight
William McIntyre

Ronald E. John

Adam Brown · Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:19 pm Post subject:

This man is called Roberts on CWGC

PITKEATHLY, ROBERTS
Initials: R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 9th Bn.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 25/09/1915
Service No: S/4320
Additional information: Son of Robert and Helen Pitkeathly, of Knapp Lodge, Inchture, Dundee.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 78 to 83.
Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL

Kenneth Morrison · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:35 pm Post subject:

Also Roberts on SNWM and the surname is "odd"

Surname PITHKEATHLY
Firstname Roberts
Service Number S/4320
Date Death 25/09/1915
Decoration
Place of birth Rossie Priory Perthshire
Other 9th Bn.
SNWM roll THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank Pte
Theatre of death F.& F.

I was talking to a chap today whose name is Pitkeathly and he wanted to know if any of his relatives were on any WM.
This man appears to be the only one. I assume the man on Longforgan is the same man.
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Ken

dhubthaigh · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:35 am Post subject:

THE PEOPLE'S JOURNAL: 16.10.1915
AN INCHTURE HERO

Private Robert Pitkeathly, of the 9th Battalion Black Watch, who has been killed at the front was the youngest son of Mr Robert Pitkeathly, Knapp Lodge, Inchture. He was born and brought up on the estate of Rossie Priory, and previous to enlisting was an apprentice in the gardens at Rossie, where his father is estate mason. Quite a number of young men in the Inchture district joined the Colours at the same time as deceased. Private Pitkeathly took a keen interest in sport, and his name figured in the Roll of Honour of Millhill Sunday School. He was only 19 years of age.

dhubthaigh · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:39 am Post subject:

I am sure that Robert Pitkeathly commemorated here, and at Longforgan, will be the same man. I think the Pitkeathly surname is particular to this neck of the woods originally. There are still a few in the Coupar Angus, Kettins, Burrelton area and prominent in local football circles. I would imagine they will be relatives of this casualty. Just reading over the report I am unaware of Millhill Sunday School's location, and would be surprised if this ROH survives.

anne park · Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 3:56 pm Post subject: James Martin GH

James Martin Pte S/41184 6th Gordon Highlanders b Inchture, Perthshire e Perth Age 19 Killed in Action F&F 31/07/1917 Son of Robert and Elsie Martin, of Baledgarno, Inchture, Perthshire. 1901 Census: Baledgarno Village. Mother: Elspeth Whyte. Soldiers Effects: Fa: Robert. Service Returns: 118/AF 368. Brother Robert also died. New Irish Farm Cemetery St Jean-Les-Ypres B 096 Plot XVIII Row E Grave 11 The Scotsman 12-09-17 P7: Inchture
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anne park · Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 3:58 pm Post subject: Robert Martin

Name: Robert Martin
Birth Place: Inchture, Perth
Residence: Inchture
Death Date: 20 May 1916
Death Place: France and Flanders
Enlistment Place: Forfar
Rank: GDSN.
Regiment: Scots Guards
Regimental Number: 12397
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
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Mike Morley · Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:16 pm Post subject:

Name: KINNAIRD, THE HON ARTHUR MIDDLETON
Initials: AM
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Scots Guards, 1st Bn
Awards: MC
Date of Death: 27/11/1917
Age: 32
Additional Information: Son of 11th Baron Kinnaird and Baroness Kinnaird, of Rossie Priory, Inchture, Perthshire. His brother, the Hon Douglas Arthur, also fell.
Grave Reference: F15
Cemetery: Ruyaulcourt Military Cemetery

Wigtownshire Free Press (20/12/1917): The late Lieutenant the Hon Arthur Middleton Kinnaird, Scots Guards, who receives the posthumous honour of the MC, was the second surviving son of the eleventh Lord Kinnaird KT, by his marriage with Lady Alma, daughter of Sir Andrew Agnew, eigth Baronet of Lochnaw. Mr Kinnaird was 32.

Mike Morley · Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:20 pm Post subject:

Name: KINNAIRD, THE HON DOUGLAS ARTHUR
Initials: DA
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: Scots Guards, 1st Bn
Date of Death: 24/10/1914
Age: 35
Additional Information: Master of Kinnaird. Son of 11th Baron Kinnaird, of Rossie Priory, Inchture, Perthshire. His brother The Hon Arthur Middleton also fell.
Grave Reference: II A 1
Cemetery: Godezonne Farm Cemetery

Kenneth Morrison · Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:59 pm Post subject:

I was really surprised to read that Baron Kinnaird "was football’s first superstar".

From http://www.scottishsporthistory.com/arthur-kinnaird-first-lord-of-football.html
Arthur Kinnaird (later Lord Kinnaird, 1847-1923)
"Described as ‘without exception, the best player of the day’, he took part in nine FA Cup Finals (a record to this day), selected Scotland’s first international team, and was President of the Football Association for 33 years..............
This was, however, no life of unburdened triumph: he lost two sons, killed in the First World War, tragedies which eventually led to the demise of the Kinnaird title before the 20th century was out."
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