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mikky
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 Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject: Memorials then and now. |
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I looked at these two images, and wondered how much the Memorial had changed in the years since it was unveiled. There's quite a bit of weathering, particularly the two bits marked. How are your Memorials standing up to the rigours of the Scottish climate?
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spoons
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that doesn't look like weathering to me, more like the handles that local neds would use when climbing the wall and they 'came away in their hands'.
great to see an older picture alongside the new
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kinnethmont
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | that doesn't look like weathering to me, more like the handles that local neds would use when climbing the wall and they 'came away in their hands' |
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A possible reason, but not due to weathering. If one came " adrift " it is possible the other was simply removed to " balance " it. As was often the case, although not intentional when constructed, it was possible to add the casualties of the 2nd Word War in sympathy with the original tribute.
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spoons
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Yes, I can see that happening, perhaps not deliberate vandalism, just someone trying to bypass locked gates
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mikky
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for that. I hadn't thought of vandlism. In Aberfeldy? i have never seen the gates shut, so will see if I can find more.
Architect's original drawing, pretty close to the finished article?
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kinnethmont
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Mikky
The memorial seems to be significantly different from this drawing.
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mikky
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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 i suppose it is Jim. I think this was a drawing submitted to the War Memorial Committee for consideration. No doubt due to costs, bits were changed. The basic concept didn't really change?
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FortyTwa
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| Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Looks like there's been a name added to the right hand WW1 panel some time after the first pic was taken as well |
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mikky
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| FortyTwa wrote: | | Looks like there's been a name added to the right hand WW1 panel some time after the first pic was taken as well |
If you're right, last name added was " After 1945 James Campbell RAF "
Not sure who he is, or why he was added to the WW1 Memorial, after 1945?
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Kenneth Morrison
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The only James Campbell RAF on the Armed Forces Memorial is:
Surname
CAMPBELL
Forenames/Initials
James Alexander
Rank
Fg Off
Service
Royal Air Force
Service Number
607474
Station
RAF Kinloss
Date of Birth
16 January 1934
Age
22
Date of Death
10 October 1956
Cemetery Name
St Columba's Churchyard
Cemetery Address
Topcliffe
Yorkshire
Included on Armed Forces Memorial
Yes
Included on Roll of Honour
Yes
Campbell was the co-pilot of a Lockhead Neptune of 36 Squadron RAF which crashed on the Mull of Kintyre. All 9 members of the crew were killed.
http://www.weetoon.com/neptune.html
He was born in Blairgowrie and Rattray.
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FortyTwa
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If you're right, last name added was " After 1945 James Campbell RAF "
Not sure who he is, or why he was added to the WW1 Memorial, after 1945?
That's the name but still puzzled as there is a space on the right hand WW2 panel where his name could have been added |
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spoons
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:56 am Post subject: |
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are we sure that it is not a WW2 death? it could be a WW2 commemoration from 1946 or 47 before the cutoff and would not be on the Armed Forces Memorial
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kinnethmont
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A decent image of the memorial and detail would be helpful. Does anyone local have a recent one?
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kinnethmont
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Mike
That is much clearer. I would take these to be men who served in WW1 and died of injuries some years later. Same for WW2.
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