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Pte. Thomas Darling - help please.

 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:55 pm    Post subject: Pte. Thomas Darling - help please. Reply with quote

Looking for any information (Svce. Rec./MIC/SDGW/etc.) to link a man listed on Tongland WM in Ringford Village, Kirkcudbrightshire.
This memorial is just a list of names.
I think I've identified him as THOMAS DARLING Pt.(15111) 1st Scots Guards. DofD 16/9/1917 and buried in Bleuet Farm Cemetery, Ypres, Belgium.
There is no "Additional Info" but the SNWM has his place of birth as Ringford Kirkcudbright.
There is one possible on scotlandspeople - b.1884 at Castle Douglas - mother Lillian Darling or Black (it's a long story!) but no sign of either in local newspapers.
I need some fresh eyes/thinking, please.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:34 pm    Post subject: 15111 Pte. Thomas Darling, Scots Guards Reply with quote

Ken

No service record survives on line, but SDGW has him born and residing at Ringford, Kirkcudbright - enlisted Berwick.
The SNWM and SDGW source would be the same.

If not convinced, you could get his service file, but there is a cost
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From Stewartry Roll of Honour

Darling, Private Thomas, Halket Leathes, Buittle. Enlisted , Scots
Guards. Served on Western Front. Kiiled in action 16th September, 1917.

I have a subscription to Ancestry so can get his record of service if you still need it

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:51 pm    Post subject: 15111 Pte. Thomas Darling, Scots Guards Reply with quote

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I have a subscription to Ancestry so can get his record of service if you still need it

Paul

As advised, it is not there.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Jim, I misread your post. I also misunderstood what Ancestry have. You say you could get the service file at a cost but I understood that all existing service files were now on Ancestry - at least as far as the middle of the alphabet, not sure about the rest.

Darling's medals were on sale at Hilton Medals, see this archive link http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:AAOcVX20o3UJ:www.hiltonmedals.co.uk/item.php%3Fi%3D189+darling+ringford&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&source=www.google.co.uk

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I understood that all existing service files were now on Ancestry


Paul

Not in the case of the Guards Division. The Guards being the Guards, they kept their own records and so they were not affected by the depository fire in 1940. Some are on Ancestry via Kew, but not all those which exist.

They can usually be obtained from the Archives but there is a hefty charge for family history research these days. I expect you know the way of it - no funding, etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim/Paul
Thanks for looking. Since he was resident in Ringford I hope he'll turn up on the 1911 census.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to some info from the Stewartry Museum, Kirkcudbright I think I've tracked Thomas Darling.
He was born as Thomas Thomson in 1895 in Kirkcudbright.
His mother, Mary Thomson, married George Darling (a ploughman) in 1898 in Buittle Parish and by 1901 they were in Parton Parish with Thomas, age 5, now listed as Darling.
A 1911 valuation record shows George Darling (ploughman) at Crumquhill Farm, Ringford, Tongland.
Every time a see "ploughman" I shudder - they really were the most mobile people in a rural community.
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