The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project

milmor_1 · Joined: 03 Jun 2009 Posts: 118 Location: Ireland

I have noted the following NCO as listed on the War Memorial,

Name: McHOLME, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Connaught Rangers
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Date of Death: 21/08/1915
Service No: 3534
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 181 to 183.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL

Sergeant McHolme is shown in Soldiers Died (Part 69) with the following birth and residence details;

Born: Edinburgh Resided: Haddington N.B. Enlisted: Dublin.

Sgt McHolme owned a Jewellers shop in Castlebar in Co. Mayo.

He is commemorated on a memorial plaque in Christ Church, Castlebar, Co Mayo and also named in the Mayo Peace Park Garden of Remembrance, Castlebar, County Mayo.

I have located this extract which refers to Sgt McHolme;

Col Jourdain his Commanding Officer wrote of him in a letter; “I have lost one of whom I thought a great deal about. And one who was bound to rise to higher things owing to his brave actions. He was gallantly leading his little army when he was shot down.”

Would it be possible to have the exact location of the Alloa Memorial for my records please.

I hope this info is of use.

Mal

Adam Brown · Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:47 pm Post subject:

Mal

It is in memorial gardens at the corner of Bedford Place, Church Street and Bank Street.

Google maps Ref:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=alloa&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=12.687488,39.418945&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Alloa,+United+Kingdom&ll=56.113524,-3.794789&spn=0.00146,0.004812&t=h&z=18

Kind regards

Adam

milmor_1 · Joined: 03 Jun 2009 Posts: 118 Location: Ireland

Many thanks for the info Adam.

Adam Brown · Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:32 pm Post subject:

This man's family were in Alloa in December 1917 according to 'The Scotsman' and they were still there when they gave the NoK details to the CWGC but he's not listed on this memorial.

WALLER, PHILIP DUDLEY
Initials: P D
Nationality: South African
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: South African Heavy Artillery
Unit Text: 71st Siege Bty.
Age: 28
Date of Death: 14/12/1917
Additional information: Son of Mr. A. P. and Mrs. E. E. Waller, of 4, Glebe Terrace, Alloa, Scotland.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. F. 14.
Cemetery: RED CROSS CORNER CEMETERY, BEUGNY

DelBoy · Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:58 am Post subject: something missing?

Adam Brown · Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:55 am Post subject:

Well spotted Derek. I can't see anythingh from any old images of the memorial on the internet.

Adam

DelBoy · Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:41 pm Post subject: Mid. Archibald Douglas Moir

WW1
ROYAL NAVY
Midshipman Archibald Douglas Moir

(Glasgow Herald 23rd of October 1917)
"Killed in action, on 17th last, Midshipman Archibald Douglas Moir, R.N., H.M.S. Marlborough, aged 17, second son of Mr & Mrs J.W. Moir, Dunmar, Alloa, temporarily on duty on H.M.S. Mary Rose."

Name: MOIR, ARCHIBALD DOUGLAS
Initials: A D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Midshipman
Regiment/Service: Royal Navy
Unit Text: H.M.S. "Mary Rose."
Age: 17
Date of Death: 17/10/1917
Awards: Mentioned in Despatches
Additional information: Son of James Whitehead Moir (Solicitor), of Dunmar, Alloa, Clackmannanshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 20.
Memorial: CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL

Ruthie · Joined: 26 Oct 2011 Posts: 17 Location: Alloa

not sure if this is any help to anyone, but heres my tu'pence worth lol

http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Clackmannanshire/Alloa.html
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just looking to put leaves on the branches of my tree.

DelBoy · Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:27 pm Post subject: Pte. Robert Allan

WW1
GORDON HIGHLANDERS
Allan, Robert. Pte.

(Glasgow Herald 12th Dec 1914)
"Official intimation was received in Alloa yesterday morning of the death of Private Robert Allan, of the Gordon Highlanders, on November 18. He was a reservist, and worked at the Alloa Glass Works before leaving to join the colours at Aberdeen about three months ago. He was about 26 years of age, was married, and has left a widow and four young children."

CWGC
Name: ALLAN, ROBERT
Rank: Private
Service No: 3/6735
Date of Death: 18/11/1914
Regiment/Service: Gordon Highlanders 1st Bn.
Panel Reference Panel 9.
Memorial PLOEGSTEERT MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: ALLAN
Firstname: Robert
Service Number: 3/6735
Date Death: 18/11/1914
Place of birth: Alloa Clackmannanshire
Other: 1st Bn.
SNWM roll: THE GORDON HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Pte

DelBoy · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:24 am Post subject: Pte. David A. Forrest

WW1
BLACK WATCH (R.H.)
Forrest, David A. Pte.

(Glasgow Herald 25th December 1914)
"Information has been received from the War Office by Mr Archibald Forrest, Broad Street, Alloa, that his son, Private David Forrest, of the Black Watch, had been killed in action on October 27. Private Forrest, who was a reservist, was engaged in the strenuous battles at the Yser, and it is supposed he had been killed by a bullet wound while taking part in an attack. He was an active, vigorous man of 25 years, and was unmarried."

CWGC
FORREST, DAVID
Rank: Private
Service No: 9475
Date of Death: 27/10/1914
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) 1st Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 37.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: FORREST
Firstname: David
Service Number: 9475
Date Death: 27/10/1914
Place of birth: Edinburgh
Other: 1st Bn.
SNWM roll: THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank: Pte

A Morris · Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 531 Location: Netherlands

Name: Peter Allan
Rank: Private
Service Number: S/1970
Unit: 10th Battalion
Regiment: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
Date of Birth: 1889 - Inverkeithing
Date of Enlistment: 21st August 1914
Date of Death: 25th July 1915
Commemorated on the Le Touret Memorial in France

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Remembering my Great Uncle - 963 Private Charles Lockhart 2nd Btn Gordon Highlanders - KIA 29/10/1914

DelBoy · Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:44 am Post subject: Pte. John Sharp

Not listed on the memorial although his parents resided there at the time of his death. Nor is he on the Glasgow RoH, he was born there. So where should he be commemorated?

WW1
BACK WATCH
Pte. John Sharp

(Glasgow Herald 13th March 1915)
"Private John Sharp (9421), 1st Black Watch, has been posted by the War Office as missing since the beginning of November, and all trace of him has since been lost. Any news concerning him would be a great relief to his parents, who reside at Black Road, Sauchie, Alloa. Sharp was a reservist, and was called up at the beginning of the war."

CWGC
SHARP, JOHN
Rank: Private
Service No: 9421
Date of Death: 29/10/1914
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) 1st Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 37.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: SHARP
Firstname: John
Service Number: 9421
Date Death: 29/10/1914
Place of birth: Barony Glasgow
Other: 1st Bn.
SNWM roll: THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank: Pte

DelBoy · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:33 pm Post subject: Pte. John Brown

WW1
Black Watch (R.H.)
Brown, John Pte.

(Glasgow Herald 16th March 1915)
"Yesterday Mr & Mrs Alex. Brown, Izatt Street, Alloa, received information from the commanding officer of the Black Watch that their son, Private John Brown, aged 21, had been killed in action last Tuesday. Private Brown, who was employed at Carsebridge Distillery, enlisted on the outbreak of war."

CWGC
BROWN, J
Rank: Private
Service No: 3/4178
Date of Death: 10/03/1915
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) 1st Bn.
Grave Reference: II. G. 2.
Cemetery: LE TOURET MILITARY CEMETERY, RICHEBOURG-L'AVOUE

SNWM
Surname: BROWN
Firstname: John
Service Number: 3/4178
Date Death: 10/03/1915
Place of birth: Alloa Clackmannanshire
Other: 1st Bn.
SNWM roll: THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank: Pte

anne park · Last edited by anne park on Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:46 am; edited 1 time in total

Allan Robert Pte 3/6735 1st Gordon Highlanders b Alloa e Aberdeen r Alloa Age 26 Killed in Action F & F 18/11/1914 Husband of Mrs Allan. Occ: worked at the Alloa Glass Works. Ploegsteert Memorial M. R. 32 Panel 9 Glasgow Herald 12-12-14