The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project

spoons · Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject: Moniaive

Another of those where it is the whole building (Moniaive Institute) which is the memorial.
UKNIWM Ref: 44308
OS Map Ref: NX 77848 90838

spoons · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject:

The 2 Montieth's listed were brothers and sons of the local minister.

There is a graveyard memorial of Monteith and his brother here http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/viewtopic.php?p=12598&mforum=scottishwargraves#12598

Apart from their listing on this memorial, they are also listed on the Moniaive church memorial here http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=2164 and the Glencairn church memorial here http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=2379

Well represented as you would expect for sons of the minister.

Being a minister himself, the younger brother is also listed on the ministers memorial in St Giles, Edinburgh here http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=880

\Paul

Adam Brown · Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject:

Spoons

Reverend William Monteith also appears on the Elie Parish Church Memorial in Fife. He was minister there between 1907 and 1914 when he joined the Army.

As a resident of Elie in 1914 he is also listed on the local War Memorial

Adam

dhubthaigh · Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:44 am Post subject:

I see another thread with separate memorials posted (WW1 & WW2).

spoons · Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:00 pm Post subject:

The institute is looking much better having been recently repainted and had much old paint removed from the sandstone window and door surrounds. This has revealed traces of previous gold lettering above the doorway and the committee intend to have this replaced.

Incidentally I just noticed a previous post regarding 2 memorials on a single thread. In this case I think that it is justified, in fact necessary because the building is the memorial with each plaque being just a part of it, they have no separate UKNIWM listing.

\Paul

Tonym · Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 224 Location: East Sussex

Paul

Do you remember? You posted her grave photo some while ago.

Name: WILSON, JEMIMA
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Member
Regiment/Service: Queen Mary's Army Auxiliary Corps
Unit Text: Gateshead Hostel
Age: 24
Date of Death: 02/12/1917
Service No: 3812
Additional information: Daughter of James and Margaret Wilson, of Ingleston Cottage, Moniaive, Dumfriesshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Q. U. 364.
Cemetery: NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE (ST. ANDREW'S AND JESMOND) CEMETERY

Tony
_________________
Pte. W. BROWN, Middlesex Regiment, K.I.A Battle of The Somme.
Sgt. J. V. MURPHY, The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders, D.O.W Monte Cassino, Italy.

spoons · Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:35 pm Post subject:

Jemima Wilson was the eldest of 7 children and served in WAAC, later QMAAC as a baker. She was stationed at Gateshead workhouse. She stepped off a bench onto a box which tipped up scalding her with cans of hot tea. She died as a result of blood poisoning following the scalds.

There are 2 pages about her in the Glencairn memorial book.

\Paul

spoons · Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:13 pm Post subject:

an additional board giving some history is now on display in the entrance

Tonym · Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 224 Location: East Sussex

Paul

Thanks for that adds some relevant detail to her profile.

Tony
_________________
Pte. W. BROWN, Middlesex Regiment, K.I.A Battle of The Somme.
Sgt. J. V. MURPHY, The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders, D.O.W Monte Cassino, Italy.

teddy · Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: Jemina Wilson

There are two pages also on Jemima in Keir War Memorial and Parish Memories, (she is on family grave in Keir Churchyard), when can see photos of her and the family gravestone. Three of her brothers served in Great War, her brother Thomas died - he is also in above Book, with photo and also in the Glencairn Memorial book.
Teddy

Tonym · Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 224 Location: East Sussex

Paul

I must be losing my concentration!! It wasn't Jemima's grave you posted it was the family grave in Kier Churchyard. I am just going to stand in the corner facing the wall.

Tony
_________________
Pte. W. BROWN, Middlesex Regiment, K.I.A Battle of The Somme.
Sgt. J. V. MURPHY, The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders, D.O.W Monte Cassino, Italy.

teddy · Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:17 am Post subject: Re Jemima Wilson grave

Tonym - do not think we have a photo of her grave in St. Andrews Cemetery, Newcastle upon Tyne; the only one we have is the Family Grave in KEIR Churchyard.
Please note village spelt as KEIR and not Kier.
Her brother Thomas on Keir WM and church Plaque, and not sure why his sister was not on as well - perhaps as had an accident when died thought she should not be recorded.
If wish further details information in - Book on 'Keir Wm and Parish Memories cost of £8.00 plus £2.00 P&P send details on PM to me for contact details.
Teddy

Tonym · Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 224 Location: East Sussex

Teddy

I am aware now that we do not have her grave. My initial post, after I saw her name on the memorial, was made without checking her profile. I knew that Paul had posted a grave photo and when I checked her profile it was the family grave in Keir Churchyard. but thanks for your comment.

Tony
_________________
Pte. W. BROWN, Middlesex Regiment, K.I.A Battle of The Somme.
Sgt. J. V. MURPHY, The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders, D.O.W Monte Cassino, Italy.

spoons · Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:05 pm Post subject:

Name: BELL, FRANCIS DOUGLAS
Initials: F D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sergeant (Air Gnr.)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: 161 Sqdn.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 14/03/1943
Service No: 1371967
Additional information: Son of Frank and Elizabeth Bell, of Moniaive, Dumfriesshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 7. D. 20.
Cemetery: DURNBACH WAR CEMETERY

teddy

This memorial institute was unveiled on 4/12/1921 and fomally opened by Lieut, Col, W.D. Young Herries. Four Hundred people crammed into the upper hall. The singing of psalm 100 was follwed by a bible reading and prayer. Colonel Herries then spoke of the great sacrifice that the parish endured and concluded by saying "May this Institute greatly prosper, and may it fulfil the primary object for which it has been erected. May peacee prevail within its walls and may those who enter it ever bear in mond those whose sacred memory it is dedicated".
The names of 72 men and 1 woman appear in alphabetical order, with out ranks; the same names appear on two church plaques which were unveiled in 1920, one in United Free Church, Dunreggan, Moniaive and the other in Glencairn Parish Church, Kirkland - different in order as they appear in rank order. Then in July 1921 same roll of honour as the two churches unveiled in Wallaceton Hall, Moniaive; making four rolls of honour for the Glencairn Parish.
Teddy.