The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project

dhubthaigh · Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 3:09 pm Post subject:

Revised list - 1st May, 2010;

1. Crossgates - War Memorial Institute (UKNIWM Ref No. 44474)
2. Kingseat - within the church (UKNIWM Ref No. 46445)
3. *Torryburn - within the church ?, or could be the one in Torryburn School UKNIWM Ref No. 583030 (28 names)

*Civil Parish

Adam Brown · Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:07 pm Post subject:

Funnily enough I was at Cameron Church by chance yesterday evening. It was closed and unfortunately the windows had blinds and I couldn't see in but from what I could see it looked quite a plain church so I'm happy that Mrs Goldsmith didn't find anything.

I did find a Great War CWGC grave and a name of a Second World War casualty on headstone in the churchyard so it looks like the community did lose at least one man from each war.

Cameron is a scattered community but it is not near any other large communities other than nearby St Andrews and it is a parish in its own right. I think we should not rule Cameron out completely yet. There is a village hall too.

When I get a chance I'll get the names from Cameron here to see if we can place them on another memorial.

Thanks

Adam

dhubthaigh · Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:23 pm Post subject:

Adam Brown · Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:30 pm Post subject:

Mark

It's beside the A915 south of St Andrews here

Thanks

Adam

dhubthaigh · Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:33 pm Post subject:

That googlemaps streetview is incredible. Shocked

Adam Brown · Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:37 pm Post subject:

It's very handy! I'd had a quick look before going so I knew that the church was off another road and could look out for the sign on that road.

Cheers

Adam

john burnett · Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 790 Location: Fife

I have photos of the inside of Cameron Parish Church Mrs Aase Goldsmith sent me. I can post them if required. The only memorials are for former Ministers. The only CWGC grave is for Reekie and is already on the Scottish War Graves website.

Adam Brown · Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 6:36 pm Post subject:

John

No, no need for the other memorials in Cameron Church. I don't think there will be another memorial there. I think it may be worth someone checking out the village hall though.

I didn't realise the Reekie grave was posted. There is another grave, not a CWGC one, which commemorates a Second World War death whcih I will upload as soon as I can

Thanks

Adam

john burnett · Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 790 Location: Fife

I received the following information from Mrs Aase Goldsmith who in turn received it via her vast network of contacts!
"The hall wasn’t built till 1926 (when J.P. (the contact) was 3 years old) – and the hall has no war memorial either. He has no idea where any Cameron casualties might be remembered …

And he confirmed that, the little garden outside the cemetry was his father’s garden, when he was church beadle and lived in the house by the church (now used for children’s playgroup).

He also confirmed that, Cameron was a large parish but not many people live there now – and it is still the biggest Community Council area in Fife. And that only two churches in Scotland have farm names on the pews …! "

Adam Brown · Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:58 pm Post subject:

Excellent information John. Perhaps we should rule Cameron out then and accept that some parishes don't have a war memorial.

Thanks to you and to Mrs Goldsmith for taking the time to delve deeper.

Kind regards

Adam

john burnett · Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 790 Location: Fife

The following has a stained glass window war memorial. Thanks to Rev J Hopewell for the information.
St Andrews, Rosyth Naval Dockyard Church.

Googling found this, "On 21 November 1946 a WRNS memorial window was dedicated in St Andrew's Church, Rosyth Dockyard."

dhubthaigh · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:28 pm Post subject:

The attached Parish Profile shows the interior of Kingseath Parish Church. The War Memorial can be seen on the wall behind the altar table;

http://www.dunfermlinepresbytery.org.uk/documents/ParishProfile14609.pdf

FortyTwa · Joined: 12 May 2009 Posts: 128 Location: United Kingdom

Balmerino WM now transcribed

Ralph

dhubthaigh

Noticed in an unrelated newspaper article that the Parish and U.F. Churches in Kingskettle, Fife had stained glass windows as Great War Memorials.