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DerekR Moderator
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 3013 Location: Hawick, Scotland
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:47 am Post subject: Pte A Daniels - Royal Defence Corps |
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Pte A Daniels - Royal Defence Corps is listed on the Hawick Roll of Honour.
Nil entry in the CWGC database matching surname and Corps.
2 deaths listed in Scotland between 1/1/17 and 31/12/20 but none have a Hawick connection.
Any ideas where I go with this man? _________________
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spoons
Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 4991 Location: St John's Town of Dalry
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Well if he was Royal Defence Corps he would not have died overseas so that rules out this man
Surname DANIELS
Firstname Andrew
Service Number 316344
Date Death 05/01/1918
Decoration
Place of birth Ancrum Roxburghshire
Other 13th Bn. formerly 3891 Scot. Horse.
SNWM roll THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank Pte
Theatre of death Salonica.
I don't think he is commemorated on CWGC but whether he should be or not depends on if he died in service, and if not, what he died of so I think it is time to find his death certificate and I would look up to perhaps 1921.
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kinnethmont
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:41 pm Post subject: Pte A Daniels - R.D.C. |
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Derek
Was the memorial unveiled on 31/12/20 ? If not what was the date.
He may have been former R.D.C. and died of natural causes. Being it that unit suggests he was not a young man, probably ex service and possibly not 100% fit. He will not have died overseas. _________________ Jim
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
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DerekR Moderator
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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I've widened my search and there are still only 2 deaths recorded in the Scottish records between 1914 and 1924 to the name of A.Daniels and 1 of these was a Military Return.
The first is the Andrew Daniels that Spoons submitted:
Name: DANIELS, ANDREW
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 13th Bn.
Age: 49
Date of Death: 05/01/1918
Service No: 316344
Additional information: Husband of Mary B. Daniels, of 34, Beaverbank Place, Edinburgh.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. B. 17.
Cemetery: LAHANA MILITARY CEMETERY
Interesting to note his death at the age of 49 and that Ancrum is only 10 miles or so from Hawick.
I'd have thought that a Royal Defence Corps death would have been most certainly at home.
So the second death listed is for an ALFRED DANIELS who was killed by a car in Dirleton District on 25th February 1918.
He is listed as a bricklayer, the husband of Agnes Taylor and their home address is given as Campbell Street in Glasgow. _________________
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kinnethmont
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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The R.D.C. was only estabished in 1917 so he must have died after that.
He could have died elswhere in the UK, during and after the war. _________________ Jim
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
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dhubthaigh Our first ever 1000-poster
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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If A. Daniels first name was confirmed that would be of great help.
A stab in the dark -
An Albert Daniels died December, 1918 at Woolwich, aged 28. (Woolwich War Hospital ?).
According to Ancestry (I know) there are no A. Daniels in the 1901 Scottish Census. |
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DerekR Moderator
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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dhubthaigh wrote: | If A. Daniels first name was confirmed that would be of great help. |
I'm afraid that is the sum total I have on the man. The only mention I have seen is on the Hawick Roll of Honour and simply states:
Pte A. Daniels - Royal Defence Corps _________________
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spoons
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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I think it would be worth searching the local papers for Jan/Feb 1918 and Dec 1918/Jan 1919 to see if either of the 2 men mentioned are listed.
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DerekR Moderator
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:29 am Post subject: |
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No mention in the local press. _________________
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DerekR Moderator
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:01 am Post subject: |
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Despite everyone's help, I'm still stuck with this man but here is his entry on the Hawick Roll of Honour which was unveiled on November, 11th, 1923,:
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