The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project

belsyde · Joined: 05 Jul 2009 Posts: 25

Hi

I have 3 queries, on a Civil Memorial regiments are CSR and CEF what do these stand for?

Also read on the forums initials SNWN again what does this mean?

Thanks

Frances

spoons · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:02 pm Post subject:

CEF = Canadian Expeditionary Force

SNWM - Scottish National War Memorial http://www.snwm.org/

can't help with CSR I'm afraid

\Paul

David McNay · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:30 pm Post subject:

Canadian Scottish Regiment perhaps?

spoons · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:43 pm Post subject:

Thinking laterally, if you give us all the detail and which memorial it is from (the CSR entry) then perhaps we can find it on SNWM or CWGC.

\Paul

Adam Brown · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject:

Folks

Don't forget the handy list of abbreviations we have for just such requests:

http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1075

We don't have CSR yet but I'd go with along with David's suggestion of Canadian Scottish Regiment.

Cheers

Adam

belsyde · Joined: 05 Jul 2009 Posts: 25

Hi

I have been up to Shieldaig and photographed the memorial there. I have be trying to find a Gregor Macdonald on the memorial, link below. it looks like CSR to me but could be GSR but not finding anything on either.

Found the CEF, Canadian.

Thanks

I have been practising putting it on the Forum and will be doing it correct soon.

http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/viewtopic.php?p=16542#16542

Stewartry · Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 274 Location: nr Nottingham

CSR may represent Cameronians (Scottish Rifles). Are any other men listed as Cameronians or Scottish Rifles? If not, then this may be the answer.

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spoons · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:38 pm Post subject:

Could also be Canadian Saskatchewan Regiment.

I cannot identify a Gregor MacDonald on either SNWM or CWGC so no luck there. I tried McDonald also.

\Paul

kinnethmont · Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Aberdeenshire

This is a Gregor McDonald, born Ross-shire. He could be Gregor Alick MacDonald residing No. 19 Sheildaig, Applecross. Born Applecross

Name: McDONALD
Initials: G
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Canadian Infantry (Central Ontario Regiment)
Unit Text: 102nd Bn.
Date of Death: 12/05/1917
Service No: 703631
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Avion Mem. 2.
Cemetery: LA CHAUDIERE MILITARY CEMETERY, VIMY
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belsyde · Joined: 05 Jul 2009 Posts: 25

Hi

This looks like my guy as this is a Shieldaig Memorial.

Will look into this further, to see if I can find him emigrating to Canada.

Another question, where would I find Merchant Navy details. Cannot find a John Macdonald or McDonald MN QM 1939-1945 on the CWG.

Frances

spoons · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:20 pm Post subject:

Merchant Navy are only included on CWGC if they died as a direct result of enemy action. If a merchant seaman died of illness or normal maritime risks then he would not be listed and I don't think you would find any info about him except on ships records or normal BMD.

\Paul