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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:02 pm    Post subject: Barrock Estate (at Lyth), Caithness Reply with quote

Memorial: Barrock Estate, Caithness
Location: Minor road crossroads at Lyth, Caithness
Grid Ref: ND281634
WMR: 5938
Sculptor: Hood, Wick
Count: WWI=19, WWII=4

My (unproven) feeling is that the three memorials 5938, 5939 and 5940 on the UKNIWM site should all be this one memorial.













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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the transcriptions:

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1914-1918

Corpl. Alex. Leitch, Seaforth Highrs. (also on Bower memorial)
Corpl. Geo. Rosie, Seaforth Highrs. (also on Bower memorial)
Pte. Alex. Bain, Seaforth Highrs. (also on Keiss memorial)
Pte. Geo. Begg, Seaforth Highrs. (also on Bower memorial)
Pte. James Coghill, Seaforth Highrs. (also on Bower memorial)
Pte. Rob. Gair, Seaforth Highrs.
Pte. Chas. D. Mowat, Seaforth Highrs. (also on Bower memorial)
Pte. Arthur Sinclair, Seaforth Highrs. (also on Bower memorial)
Pte. Alex. Waters, Seaforth Highrs. (also on Bower memorial)
Pte. Dond. Waters, Seaforth Highrs. (also on Bower memorial)

Capt. Harry Young, Royal Garrison Artilery (also on Bower memorial)
Lieut. Alex. Malcolm, Canadians (also on Bower memorial)
L.Corpl. Jas. F. B. Young, Canadians (also on Bower memorial)
Pte. John McAdie, Canadians (also on Bower memorial)
Pte. Peter Mowat, Canadians (also on Bower memorial)
Sergt. Geo. M. Mowat, South Africans (also on Bower memorial)
Sergt. Andrew Rosie, Argyle & Suthd. Highrs. (also on Bower memorial)
Pte. Alex. Mowat, Gordon Highrs. (also on Bower memorial)
Seaman Jas. MacKay, R.N.R. (also on Bower memorial)
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1939-1945

Pte. David T. Falconer, 5th Seaforth Highrs. (also on Bower memorial)
Sg.Nav. John F. M. Gunn, R.A.F.V.R. (also on Bower memorial)
Sergt. Sinclair Leitch, Scots Guards (also on Keiss memorial)
W/Sergt. William Miller, 6th Seaforth Highrs. (also on Bower and Keiss memorials)?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob. Gair is on the online Caithness roll of Honour [url=http://www.internet-promotions.co.uk/archives/caithness/roll/rollofma.htm[/ur]

Gair Robert. S/3160. Pte. 8th (Service) Seaforth Hldrs. 44th Bde, 15th (Scottish) Div. Born Bower . Enlisted Dunblane. Killed in action 25/09/15 Hill 70, Loos. Parents; Bower.

He had Bower connections but is not listed on the Bower memorial.

Sergeant John Mowat does not appear on the online Roll of Honour so no clues to his background.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADP wrote:
W/Sergt. William Miller, 6th Seaforth Highrs. (also on Bower and Keiss memorials)?


According to "Caithness-And the War" This is

"MILLER, Sergt. WILLIAM, 6th Seaforth Highrs. Aged 32 years. Killed in the crossing of Garigliano River, Italy - January 18, 1944. Mobilised with Territorials and awarded Territorial Efficiency Medal. Served in France, Madagascar, India, Iraq and Sicily before going to Italy. Only son of Mr and Mrs George Miller, Nybster, Auckengill (late of Calder and Sortat, Lyth)

Nybster is near Keiss which would explain why he is also listed on that memorial.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Brown wrote:
Sergeant John Mowat does not appear on the online Roll of Honour so no clues to his background.


My mistake in the transcriptions - he was George, not John. Embarassed

Name: MOWAT
Initials: G McK.
Nationality: South African
Rank: Sergeant
Regiment/Service: South African Infantry
Unit Text: 4th Regt.
Age: 31
Date of Death: 24/03/1918
Service No: 3801
Additional information: Son of Alexander and Jane Mowat, of West Lyth, Wick, Caithness, Scotland.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. G. 11.
Cemetery: HEM FARM MILITARY CEMETERY, HEM-MONACU

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On Google Maps Street View here

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert Gair is on the Stirling Civic Memorial:
Birth: Bower, Caithness
Robert Gair, 1/9/1891, Barrock Lodge, Bower; Sinclair, mason & Mary Ann ms Watt;

In 1913 he married Jeannie Nimmo of St Ninian's, Stirling. His address was given as 142 Main Street, St Ninian's. His occupation was coal miner. At the birth of their 2nd daughter in November 1914 he was "coal miner, private 3160 8th Seaforth Highlanders"

His medal card states "presumed dead".
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:54 am    Post subject: WMR Reports Reply with quote

You are correct in your assumptions about the WMR numbers. 5939 and 5940 have been deleted, and 5938 is the one number now
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of two brothers named here (and on the Bower Parish War Memorial) is also named on the Melrose War Memorial in Roxburghshire as:

SERGT. A. ROSIE.
Andrew Rosie – age 28 – Lance Sergeant (S/14832) 14th Battalion, Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders.
Andrew enlisted in the Argylls at Galashiels, Selkirkshire in November 1915.
Born 1889 Thurso, Caithness. Son of the late Alexander and Mary (Campbell) Rosie of Lyth, near Wick, Caithness.
Missing in Action on 26 November 1917 and named on the Cambrai Memorial, Louverval, France.

Also named on the Bower Parish War Memorial in Caithness and on the Barrock Estate memorial in Lyth, Caithness, together with his brother George Campbell Rosie, Corporal (1187) 2nd Seaforth Highlanders who died of wounds in the 12th General Hospital in Rouen on 14 April 1916. Andrew was named as his legatee.
George was born in 1891 in Halkirk, Caithness and by 1901 Andrew, George, Alexander and Isabella were living with their grandmother Jane Rosie in Bower.
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