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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:20 pm    Post subject: Copyright Reply with quote

I have seen a couple of posts recently that show that some are not aware of what copyright rules are, especially about old books.

My understanding of UK copyright (from internet research) is as follows:

Literary Works Written works. Includes lyrics, tables, compilations, computer programmes, letters, memoranda, e-mail and WWW pages. Authors life plus 70 years after death.
Anonymous/corporation authors: 70 years from year of publication.

Photographs are generally the same as literary works. There are plenty of other classes with different periods (films, music etc) but I don't think they are applicable to what anyone is likely to need on the forum.

Crown copyright can be up to 125 years unless it was published commercially in which case it is 50 years from date of publication.

Rules on anything which is US copyright are much longer.

If it is out of copyright - you can freely copy it as you like.

You can make certain copies of in copyright material if you hold a copyright license. www.cla.co.uk

If anyone has anything to add or correct, perhaps you would post, otherwise this could be a useful reference for those who care to post copies of documents etc.

Technically the 70 years starts on the following 1st January from the relevant date so anything published by a company is out of copyright if it was published before 1st January 1938. If it was by an individual author, it will only be out of copyright now if he died before 1st January 1938.

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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Spoons,

I recently spoke with the Librarian re copyright. He mentioned that the family can have a say in the copyright after a persons death.

More research for you.
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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's exactly right, assuming they own the copyright. It's covered in the first point above, author's life plus 70 years. Copyright is an asset that can be left in a will, hence the family involvement if it is left to them. The copyright will expire 70 years from the author's death regardless of who owns it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:07 pm    Post subject: Copyright Reply with quote

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Technically the 70 years starts on the following 1st January from the relevant date so anything published by a company is out of copyright if it was published before 1st January 1938. If it was by an individual author, it will only be out of copyright now if he died before 1st January 1938.


Paul

Does this then mean that an item / picture published in a newspaper before 1938 is out of Copyright and can be freely copied?

Does it follow then if I have a 1918 Scotsman at home I can copy it, whereas, (I assume there is an agreement signed up to) if I download it from their Archive I cannot despite the Copyright being out?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Copyright Reply with quote

kinnethmont wrote:
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Technically the 70 years starts on the following 1st January from the relevant date so anything published by a company is out of copyright if it was published before 1st January 1938. If it was by an individual author, it will only be out of copyright now if he died before 1st January 1938.


Paul

Does this then mean that an item / picture published in a newspaper before 1938 is out of Copyright and can be freely copied?

Does it follow then if I have a 1918 Scotsman at home I can copy it, whereas, (I assume there is an agreement signed up to) if I download it from their Archive I cannot despite the Copyright being out?


That is my understanding (as confirmed by internet searching and with local library) but that only applies if the newspaper article was anonymous. If the author was acknowledged in the article then the 70 years starts on 1st January following the writers date of death. No idea how you are supposed to find that out though.

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