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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The inscriptions are very difficult to read due to weathering;

On the wall behind the cross it reads;
THEIR NAME LIVETH FOR EVERMORE

On the left side of the base it reads;
GREATER LOVE HATH NO MAN THAN THIS THAT A MAN LAYS DOWN HIS LIFE FOR HIS FRIENDS

On the right side of the base it reads;
IN HONOUR OF THOSE BELONGING TO THIS PARISH WHO FELL IN THE GREAT WAR

GILBERT S. SMITH, GNR., R.G.A.
JAMES GLEN, PVT., SCOTTISH HORSE
JAMES SHARP, PVT., BLACK WATCH
WILLIAM BERRY, PVT., BLACK WATCH
SINCLAIR MANSON, PVT., ROYAL SCOTS
WILLIAM MORRISON LOUDEN, PVT., BLACK WATCH
ROBERT BROWN LOUDEN, PVT., A. & S. HIGH.
GEORGE WILLIAM CROPPER, PVT., LONDON SCOTTISH
IAN ROSS MACGREGOR, L/CPL., MOTOR MACHINE GUN CORPS
WILLIAM CRAIG, SGT., MOTOR TRANSPORT, A.S.C.
HORACE WATSON, L/CPL., M.G.C.
CHARLES HUTTON, GNR., R.G.A.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PERTHSHIRE ADVERTISER: 01.12.1920

ABERDALGIE’S MEMORIAL

IMPRESSIVE UNVEILING CEREMONY
THE SPIRIT OF SACRIFICE


The sombre grey skies and the steadily falling rain seemed all in keeping with the purpose for which so many people gathered together in Aberdalgie Parish Church on Saturday forenoon. The occasion was the unveiling of the parish memorial a striking Celtic Cross erected on a solid square stone base just outside the church gate - but owing to the condition of the weather the dedication service had to be held within the church.

Lord Forteviot, the chairman of the memorial Committee, presided, and after the singing of the hymn “Our God our help in ages past” by the large congregation and the choir, Dedicatory Prayer was offered by the Rev. R.S.V. Logie, minister of the parish. Thereafter the chairman related the events which had led to the erection of the memorial, which had been designed by Mr Millar, A.R.S.A., a native of the district, and said that though Aberdalgie was one of the smallest parishes in the country, it was not lacking in public spirit, because from that parish of only 270 inhabitants - an agricultural parish where many men might easily have been exempted - sixty-two men fought in the war, and of that number 12 gave their all for their country. That monument would be a permanent reminded of the sacrifices of those men. National memorials were very good, but he liked parish memorials. The parish memorial was personal, a domestic matter, that appealed to every household. Every inhabitant had contributed freely to the cost of that memorial. They knew the men, knew what they had sacrificed. It was a memorial to the sacrifices of the fathers and mothers and the wives and the children, and he was glad for that reason that Aberdalgie had erected that memorial and that it was such a beautiful and lasting one.

The Duke of Atholl said that he hoped none of them would look on that memorial as a tombstone, but as a memorial to those who had passed beyond to a far greater life than they had here, and who were not afraid to go. He hoped also that they would look upon it as a very small token of gratitude and remembrance of that generation to remind future generations what the men of this generation had done, The best memorial they could really erect to those men was to try to maintain that liberty and that security they had left them and try to be worthy of it. The sacrifices asked of them today were very small compared with the sacrifices of the war which had been so willingly made. Surely it was up to them to try and pull together and try to make some use of that great heritage which had been left them. They could do it by trying to see things a little more from each other’s point of view, rather than trying to shove their own ideas down other people’s mouths, by trying to keep together the ordered state of the Constitution, ordered Government, that their men had left them, rather than proving false to their memory and letting the whole things go for which they suffered and died. After war it inevitably happened that they found a great many of the smaller minds, which had been suppressed during the war - to put it in ordinary parlance they had got four years of their rubbish off their chests. It was not surprising therefore, that they should hear a great deal of those people now. He did not think that they should take those people nearly so seriously perhaps as they did. They were suffering from a certain extent to reaction, and now that the people were tired of war and worried about their own affairs, and perhaps not paying much attention to affairs of State, those other people had an opportunity of coming in. It was necessary for them to maintain that spirit of unity which had been created during the war, and show all people that the nation which had come through the fire was not going to allow the chaos and evil machinations of people who were trying to put the whole world agog from one end to the other.

The hymn “Praise to our God, Whose bounteous hand” was then sung, and the Benediction pronounced, after which the large congregation assembled around the monument while His Grace reverently drew aside the Union jack and solemnly dedicated it to the Glory of God and to the memory of the brave men whose names were inscribed thereon.

Pipe-Major Kennedy played the “Flowers of the Forest”, and a memorable ceremony concluded with the haunting strains of the bugle call, “The Last Post”, sounded by Cpl. P. Riddoch, A. & S. H.

Thereafter the Duke inspected the guard of honour consisting of ex-servicemen, Boy Scouts, and Girl Guides, who were under the command of Major the Hon. John Dewar, M.C.

The names of the fallen, cut out on the front panels at the base of the Cross were as follows:- Sergt. William Craig, M.T., A.S.C.; Cpl. Ian Ross MacGregor, M.M.G.C.; L-Cpl. Horace Watson, M.G.C.; Gunner Charles Hutton, R.G.A.; Gunner Gilbert S. Smith, R.G.A.; Trooper James Glen, Scottish Horse; Private James Sharp, Black Watch; Private William Berry, Black Watch; Private Sinclair Manson, Royal Scots; Private William Morrison Louden, Black Watch; Private Robert Brown Louden, Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders; Private George Cropper, London Scottish.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another man listed who had so far eluded me: Sergt. William Craig, M.T., A.S.C.

His service papers survive on ancestry. He died on 30th May 1920, a carter (Army pensioner).

I have located his death cert & MIC.

Would he be a non-comm ?
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it would depend on the cause of death, Mark. He's listed as an army pensioner so he didn't die "in service". However, if his death can be attributed to his war service then I expect he is a "non-comm".
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 8:13 pm    Post subject: Sgt William Malcolm Craig, R.A.S.C Reply with quote

Mark

I checked out Craig’s record.
There is nothing there to tie with the details on the DC being war related causes. He was a pensioner due to his hearing being affected by a pre existing ear infection condition. He made a claim and was rated with a disability due to this and a pension paid, later paid to his widow to 1929. The Record Office have been informed of the cause of death (Duodenal ulcer. Veinous thrombosis embolism) in a letter regarding the pension payment. He was transferred to the “Z” Reserve on 2nd April 1919.

The disability cause was Otitis Med (Otitis media ) and it was aggravated by his service, but not caused by it. If his death had been related this infection of the ear things might be different.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim,

Thanks for looking further into that.

Mark
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:53 pm    Post subject: pics needed Reply with quote

We could do with a pic of the names if anyone is in the area in the future.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:18 pm    Post subject: The Louden Brothers Reply with quote

The two Louden brothers

Robert Brown Louden

CWGC
LOUDEN, R
Rank: Private
Service No: 21431
Date of Death: 21/03/1918
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders 10th Bn.
Grave Reference: III. H. 27.
Cemetery: CANADA FARM CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of Mary Brown Louden, of Milton Cottage, Aberdalgie, Perth.

SNWM
Surname: LOUDEN
Forename: Robert B
Rank: Pte
Service number: S/21431
Place of birth: Crieff Perthshire
Date of death: 21 March 1918
Theatre of death: F&F
Cause of death: Died of wounds.
SNWM roll: THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Other detail: 10th Bn.

William Morrison Louden

Also listed on the Dunbarney, Rhynd & Dron memorial in Bridge of Earn.

(Evening Telegraph 12th of May 1916)
"Official information has been received by Mr & Mrs Louden, Milton Cottages, Aberdalgie, Perth, of the death in action on 27th April of their son Pte. Wm. Louden, Black Watch. Before enlisting, Private Louden, who was 20 years of age, was a ticket collector at Bridge oof Earn station."

CWGC
LOUDEN, WILLIAM MORRISON
Rank: Private
Service No: S/4399
Date of Death: 27/04/1916
Age: 20
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) 9th Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 78 to 83.
Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of Mary B. Louden, of 67, Strathmore St., Bridgend, Perth, and the late William Louden.

SNWM
Surname: LOUDEN
Forename: William
Rank: Pte
Service number: S/4399
Place of birth: Dunbarney Perthshire
Date of death: 27 April 1916
Theatre of death: F&F
Cause of death: Killed in action
SNWM roll: THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Other detail: 9th Bn.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:12 am    Post subject: WMR 82365 Reply with quote

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