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Applegarth and Sibbaldbie Parish, Applegarth

 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:56 pm    Post subject: Applegarth and Sibbaldbie Parish, Applegarth Reply with quote

UKNIWM Ref 56995 (cross) and 56969 (church plaque)

The memorial is on a green in front of Applegarth church. Not so much a village or hamlet, more a rural community, The area around Applegarth church has only 2 occupied buildings and one derelict one and is not on the road to anywhere so must get visitors only very rarely.

OS Map Ref: NY 104 843

The memorial (sandstone) has no names inscribed, just the dates of the wars plus 3 bronze plaques. I have transcribed these as they are not easy to read from photographs. The church only seems to be used rarely so I have included the church sign to give details of services/contacts.

I presume that the list of names mentioned on the plaques is held in Applegarth church, if not - Langholm or Lochmaben would be candidates.






transcriptiion of the above

THEIR NAME
LIVETH
FOR EVERMORE

IN MEMORY OF THE MEN OF THIS
PARISH WHO DIED IN THE GREAT
WAR WHOSE NAMES ARE RECORDED
IN THE CHURCH
ERECTED BY THE PARISHIONERS
OF APPLEGARTH AND SIBBALDBIE



transcription of the above

THEIR NAME
LIVETH
FOR EVERMORE

IN MEMORY OF THE MEN OF THIS
PARISH WHO DIED IN THE SECOND
GREAT WAR WHOSE NAMES ARE
RECORDED IN THE CHURCH
ERECTED BY THE PARISHIONERS
OF APPLEGARTH AND SIBBALDBIE



transcription of the above

ALSO IN GRATEFUL
COMMEMORATION OF
ALL CONNECTED WITH
THE PARISH WHO
SERVED.



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The plaque is indeed inside Applegarth church behind the sandstone pillar in the first photo. Thanks to Harry Smith for arranging access to the church.

Although this plaque is inside the church, the wording on the plaque and on the pillar outside, lead me to treat this as a parish (civic) memorial. There are also 2 windows inside the church and I have listed these as a church memorial. This plaque, like the pillar outside, is not listed on UKNIWM.





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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Name: JARDINE, RONALD JAMES
Initials: R J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Flying Corps
Secondary Regiment: 2nd Dragoons (Royal Scots Greys)
Secondary Unit Text: and
Age: 24
Date of Death: 13/09/1917
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. David J. Jardine of Jardine.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: On West boundary.
Cemetery: APPLEGARTH PARISH CHURCHYARD EXTENSION

Lieut., 2nd Dragoons, Royal Scots Greys, attd. R.F.C., s of David Jardine Jardine, of Applegarth, Tinwald and Torthorwold, near Dumfries; b. co Sussex, 12 June 1903; educ. Edward Hawtrey's School, Eton, and the Royal Military College, Sandhurst; was gazetted 2nd Lieut. Royal Scots Greys 15 Aug. 1914 and promoted Lieut. in July, 1916; transferred to the Royal Flying Corps in Aug. 1917, and was killed 13 Sept. 1917, while learning to fly at Montrose. Buried in Applegarth Churchyard, near Lockerbie.
His commanding officer wrote: "We shall all miss this clever bright officer; he was getting on so well, and I hoped to see him make great mark. He was a most lovable character in every way. I was so glad to hear of his progress in the R.F.C. lately".
And a brother officer: "Your son was one of our most promising officers, a great favourite with us all. His kindness and courtesy to all won him friends wherever he went. He showed great promise of being a most able 'flight-man', quick and keen at his work. These are the kind of men we want in the R.F.C., but so rare to find. We shall miss him more than I can say".
He was a good all-round sportsman, with a great idea of drawing. He was greatly in request to make caricatures and portraits of his fellow-officers; was exceptionally good with gun or rifle, shooting being his favourite sport. His heart was with the R.A.F., even when at Sandhurst, and it was only because his people did not want him to join the R.F.C., as it was then, that he refrained.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: George Johnstone Reply with quote

How is it decided where a name appears on a parish memorial?

My great uncle PTE George Johnstone is named on this memorial at Hutton Church despite not living in parish. He stayed at Blindhillbush Farm which is just in Applegarth and Sibbaldbie parish.

Is there any way you can tell whether the PTE George Johnstone named on Lockerbie WW1 memorial is the same man. Similarly is there any way of finding out if CPL George Johnstone on Applegarth and Sibbalbie is my great uncle.

Goerge was killed in France on 30 May 1918 and is buried in Tannay Britiish Cementry Thiennes. His service number was 23286

This is a great site and you should all be congratulated for your hard work and effort.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: George Johnstone Reply with quote

wullers wrote:
This is a great site and you should all be congratulated for your hard work and effort.


I will defer to the Dumfries & Galloway experts for your answer, however you comment is a much appreciated boost.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now listed by UKNIWM, original post amended to include the reference.

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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 3:25 pm    Post subject: Memorial Transcription Reply with quote

WW1

Tpr. Robert Anderson, R.S. Greys
Rfn. Andrew Black, S.R.
Pte. James Blackstock, R.S.
Pte. John Carlyle, K.O.S.B.
Rfn. Charles Curran, S.R.
Pte. George Docherty, Gordons
Pte. Robert Duncan, R.S.F.
Cpl. Sam Gilroy, R.E.
Lt. Hugh C. Graham, R.S. & M.G.C.
Lt. Ronald James Jardine, R.S. Greys & R.F.C.
Rfn. Joseph Jardine, S.R.
Cpl. George Johnstone, K.O.S.B.
Cpl. Alexander Laurie, K.O.S.B.
Pte. George Little, Cdn.Inf.
Pte. John Maltman, K.O.S.B.
Cpl. Thomas McAdam, S.R.
Pte. Michael Morrin, R.S.
Gnr. Hugh Morton, R.G.A.
Pte. Robert Patterson, K.O.S.B.
Pte. Joseph Purdie, R.M.L.I.
Pte. Robert Richardson, K.O.S.B.
Pte. Thomas Rogerson, K.O.S.B.
Pte. Irving Smith, R.S.
Pte. John Sword, A.&.S.H.
L.Cpl. Charles Thomson, H.L.I.
Sgt. Geo. Thomson D.C.M. (Distinguished Conduct Medal), K.O.S.B.

WW2

L.Cpl. George Arnott, S.High
Gdmn. William Richardson, S.G.
Gun. Gladstone Scott, R.A.
A.B. James Waugh, R.N.
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