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DerekR
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 Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:22 am Post subject: The Hon. CHARLES HENRY MURRAY ST. CLAIR - keep a look out! |
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The name of the Hon. CHARLES HENRY MURRAY ST. CLAIR appears on the Bonchester Bridge and Edrom War Memorials in the Borders.
His CWGC entry reads:
Son of the Rt. Hon. Charles William, 15th Baron Sinclair and Margaret Jane, Baroness Sinclair, of 55, Onslow Square, London; Nisbet, Duns, Berwickshire; Herdmanston, Pencaitland, Haddingtonshire
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=195380
So I suspect he may crop up a few times more on other memorials.
Please keep a look out - perhaps he'll set a Scottish record for the number of times that he's commemorated?
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Adam Brown
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Derek
He's not on Duns or Pencaitland but I'll keep an eye out for him. It's a distinctive surname.
I've found Captain Allan Gilmour, Lovat Scouts, on seven memorials so far. Five in Sutherland and two in Alexandria, West Dunbartonshire
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DerekR
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Seven HAS to be a record?
What was Gilmour's claim to fame?
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Adam Brown
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| DerekR wrote: | Seven HAS to be a record?
What was Gilmour's claim to fame? |
As far as I know he hasn't got one, which makes it all the more remarkable. No VC, or peerage, or high rank.
Two can be put down to where he grew up and had family, Ardgay and Rosehall. Rosehall is the Gilmour family home and he would have been well known in Ardgay just a few miles away.
Another two are down to his wife. She was from Alexandria and so he is on the community and local parish memorial there. Another is a Society memorial, The Glasgow Sutherland Association in Dornoch Cathedral
That leaves two other community memorials in Sutherland, Durness and Strathy. One is at the far North-West and the other is along the coast near Caithness. Neither is near each other or anywhere near Rosehall and I don’t think there are family connections. I will try and find out on a Sutherland genealogy forum why he was commemorated there.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he turns up on a school or another church memorial so he may have more than seven. He also had a piping medal named in his honour in the 1920s but I can find no modern reference to it.
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Adam Brown
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Just bumping this up to the top to see if there have been any more sightings of the Hon Charles St Clair's name on other Border memorials.
Another candiadate for having a name on several memorials is General Wauchope of Magersfontein fame.
Another is Geoffrey Keyes VC who turns up on a few memorials, mostly outside Scotland.
They are the Great and the Good though.
Going back to Allam Gilmour I've found out that he's mentioned in Strathy because the family had an estate in that area. I've still to find a Durness connection.
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If we count all memorials, James Tait VC is in the running
individual memorial in Laurieburn school
individual memorial in Troqueer church
Laurieburn school memorial
Troqueer church memorial
Maxwelltown
Dumfries Academy
That's six memorials all in Dumfries and as he served in a Canadian unit, he could easily be on a memorial or two in Canada.
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