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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject: Kirkmichael (Nethermill) Reply with quote

The memorial is not listed on UKNIWM (separate memorials are listed as 44336 and 44337). This memorial is some distance from Kirkmichael church where the listed memorials are.

OS Map Ref: NX 047 874 at the crossroads to the East of the village.




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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just occurred to me that I have no idea what the quote means.

"Fallen to rise
Baffled to fight better
sleep to wake"

any idea what that is all about?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spoons wrote:

any idea what that is all about?


Eh no Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:25 pm    Post subject: Kirkmichael War Memorial (Nethermill) - Dumfries and Gallowa Reply with quote

The quotation on this Memorial is taken from the last poem written by Robert Browning - Epilogue to Asolando:

One who never turned his back but marched breast forward
Never doubted the clouds would break,
Never dreamed, though right were worsted, wrong and triumph,
Held we fall to rise, are baffled to fight better
Sleep to wake'
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, all adds to our understanding.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that the two men named McNEISH - one in each war - are sort of related.

Name: McNEISH
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Machine Gun Corps (Infantry)
Age: 23
Date of Death: 29/10/1918
Service No: 5025
Additional information: Son of George McNeish, of Parkgate, Kirkmichael.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Cemetery: KIRKMICHAEL PARISH CHURCHYARD, Dumfriesshire

Name: McNEISH, ALEXANDER FRASER TAYLOR
Initials: A F T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Driver
Regiment/Service: Royal Army Service Corps
Age: 34
Date of Death: 20/05/1945
Service No: T/14780583
Additional information: Son of George Little McNeish and Margaret Jane McNeish; husband of Margaret McNeish, of Dumfries.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 5. E. 2.
Cemetery: FAYID WAR CEMETERY

The latter, who is also listed on the Terregles War Memorial, was the step-son of George Little McNeish. He was born as Alexander Fraser Taylor in 1910 in Kirkmichael and his mother, Margaret Jane married George (widower) in 1912.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still trying to work out if the Dinwoodies were related.

Name: DINWOODIE
Initials: D W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
Unit Text: 8th Bn.
Date of Death: 19/04/1917
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. C. 32.
Cemetery: TEMPLEUX-LE-GUERARD BRITISH CEMETERY

Name: DINWOODIE, GEORGE SINCLAIR
Initials: G S
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force
Unit Text: 38th Training Depot Station
Secondary Regiment: Highland Light Infantry
Secondary Unit Text: formerly (Pte.) 7th Bn.
Age: 26
Date of Death: 29/08/1918
Additional information: Son of Samuel and Helen Caroline Dinwoodie, of "Braerig," 16, Lindsay Drive, Kelvindale, Glasgow. Born at Kirkmichael, Dumfriesshire. Twice wounded.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: D. 36.
Cemetery: GLASGOW (RIDDRIE PARK) CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are brothers - see page 6 of
http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/scottishwargraves-ftopic140-0-asc-75.html
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listed here and on the Maxwelltown/Troqueer WM is

JOHNSTONE, PETER
Rank:Lance Corporal
Service No:28929
Date of Death:22/04/1915
Age:30
Regiment/Service:Canadian Infantry
16th Bn.
Grave ReferenceXIV. C. 19.
CemeteryNEW IRISH FARM CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of Maxwell and Jane Johnstone, of Seaforth, Montaive, Dumfriesshire, Scotland. Native of Gillrig, Kirkmichael, Dumfriesshire.

update - and see delboy's post below:
Peter was a Fire Warden and a member of the Legion of Frontiersmen in British Columbia when he enlisted in the 72nd Regiment, The Seaforth Highlanders of Canada, in Vancouver. Men from this Regiment were transferred to the 16th Battalion, in September 1914 at Valcartier Quebec.
Born 1885 in Kirkmichael, Dumfriesshire. Son of the late Maxwell Johnstone of Stidriggs, Kirkmichael and of Jane (Charteris) Johnstone of 5 Braehead Terrace, Rosemount Street, Maxwelltown and later of "Seaforth", Chapel Street, Moniaive, Dumfriesshire.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:02 am    Post subject: L.Cpl. Peter Johnstone Reply with quote

(Glasgow Herald 24th May 1915)
"The death of another Dumfries Canadian is also reported. This is Lance-Corporal P. Johnstone, of the 16th Battalion of the Canadian Seaforth Highlanders, youngest son of the late Mr Maxwell Johnstone, farmer, stidriggs, Kirkmichael, and of Mrs Johnstone, 5 Braehead Terrace, Rosemount Street, Maxwelltown, who waskilled in action on April 22. Lance-Corporal Johnstone held a goverment position in British Columbia."

Canadian Attestation papers

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Listed here and on the Maxwelltown/Troqueer WM is

JOHNSTONE, PETER
Rank: Lance Corporal
Service No: 28929
Date of Death: 22/04/1915
Age: 30
Regiment/Service: Canadian Infantry 16th Bn.
Grave Reference: XIV. C. 19.
Cemetery: NEW IRISH FARM CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of Maxwell and Jane Johnstone, of Seaforth, Montaive, Dumfriesshire, Scotland. Native of Gillrig, Kirkmichael, Dumfriesshire.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:51 am    Post subject: William Halliday Pte GH Reply with quote

William Halliday Pte S/19789 7th Gordon Highlanders b Carmichael,Dumfries e Berwick-on-Tweed Killed in Action F&F 14/04/1918 Soldiers Effects: no info. Ploegsteert Memorial M. R. 32 Panel 9
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is now WMR, ex UKNIWM, memorial 72188
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1914 1919


PTE. DAVID BEATTIE, S.G
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David Edgar Beattie age 23 Private (13891) 3rd Battalion, Scots Guards.
In 1901 the family were at Lochrigghead Cottages in Kirkmichael.
David was a constable in the Dumfriesshire Constabulary in Kirkconnel when he enlisted. He joined the 1st Scots Guards in France in October 1915 but was wounded on 15 September 1916 and evacuated to the 2nd Western General Hospital in Manchester were he died.
Born 1893 in Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire. Son of the late Mary (Boyes) Beattie and of James Beattie of Nethermill, Parkgate, Kirkmichael.
Died of Wounds on 4 October 1916 and buried in Torthorwald Churchyard.

and his brother (who died one day earlier)

PTE. GEORGE BEATTIE, S.R.
George Beattie age 18 Private (14603) 11th Battalion, Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
George was a farm servant when he enlisted in 1914. He was posted to his battalion in Salonika in early 1916 but contracted malaria and died.
Born 1899 in Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire as George Laidlaw Beattie. Son of the late Mary (Boyes) Beattie and of James Beattie of Nethermill, Parkgate, Kirkmichael.
Died on Active Service on 3 October 1916 and buried in Karasouli Military Cemetery, Greece.


PTE. EDWARD CARLYLE, D.C.L.I.
Edward Carlyle age 21 Private (12350) 6th Battalion, Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry.
In 1911 Edward, aged 18, was a stableman at 12 Great Smith Street, Westminster, London and he was a footman with the Duke of Buccleuch in Whitehall when he enlisted in London in 1914. He was selected for the machine gun section and landed with his battalion at Boulogne in May 1915 but was killed two months later near Ypres.
Born 1893 in Milton Mill, Dunscore, Dumfriesshire as Edward Kerr Carlyle.
Son of Margaret Nicholson Carlyle and grandson of the late Edward Carlyle of Milngate, Kirkmichael, Amisfield.
Missing in Action on 31 July 1915 and named on the Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial, Belgium.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PTE. ALEX. CARRUTHERS, R.S.F.
Alexander Carruthers age 35 Private (41833) 1st Battalion, Royal Scots Fusiliers.
Alexander was the manager of a drapery business in Kilmarnock when he enlisted in the Ayrshire Yeomanry in 1916. He was posted to the 1st RSF and had been in France for seven weeks when he was killed.
Born 1882 in Kirkmichael as Alexander Jardine Carruthers. Son of the late James and Mary (Johnstone) Carruthers of Lochriffhead, Kirkmichael. Husband of Elizabeth E. G. M. (MacLeod) Carruthers of 5 Rugby Road, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire who he married in 1909 in Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire.
(Later Mrs John Dickson of Caulkerbush, Southwick, Kirkcudbrightshire)
Missing in Action on 2 September 1918 and named on the Vis-En-Artois Memorial, France.


PTE. WALTER COOK, K.O.S.B
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Walter Cook age 23 Private (241011) 1/5th Battalion (Dumfries and Galloway) King's Own Scottish Borderers.
Walter was working on his father's farm at Stenmuir, Kirkmichael when he enlisted as Private (4234) in the 5th KOSB Reserve in 1915, and a year later he was posted to Egypt. He was fatally wounded at Gaza and died in the 1/3rd Lowland Field Ambulance.
Born 1894 at Kirkbean, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of William and Isabella (Smith) Cook of Boatrigg, Auldgirth, Dumfriesshire.
In 1901 Walter, age 6, was at Burnside Cottage, Troqueer with his family.
Died of Wounds on 24 November 1917 and buried in Jerusalem War Cemetery, Israel.
Also named on the Beeswing Village War Memorial in Kirkcudbrightshire.


PTE. CHARLES CURRIE, LAN.YEO.
Charles Currie age 27 Private (44152) 7th/8th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
Charles was employed on his father's farm at Townhead when he enlisted as Private (1526) in the Lanarkshire Yeomanry in 1916. He was posted to the KOSB in France.
Born 1889 in Kirkmichael. Son of Robert and Elizabeth (Nicholson) Currie of Townhead Farm, Kirkmichael.
Killed in Action on 31 July 1917 and buried in Aeroplane Cemetery, Belgium.
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