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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Lochrutton Reply with quote

This memorial is on the outside of Lochrutton church (now disused). It is also probably the most difficult to find and get to of any memorial I have seen.
The fact that it is not on UKNIWM did not help!
It is at NX 913 736 on an unmarked track of the old military road to the east of a hamlet called Lochfoot. Unless you have a 4WD, don't even try to get all the way to the church. Walking the last half mile is adviseable or 200 yards if you are a brave driver.
So how did I find it? Hunch, plus taking my 4WD for a test drive.
The church itself is disused of course.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spoons

To me this inscription, and the outside location, means the memorial is a community one as well as a church one so I've moved it to the civic section.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ERECTED
BY THE PARISHONERS OF LOCHRUTTON
TO THE SACRED MEMORY OF
THOSE BELONGING TO THE PARISH WHO FELL
IN THE GREAT WAR
1914-1918
CARSON, THOMAS PVT K.O.S.B. AGED 21 YEARS
ESDALE, WILLIAM PVT K.O.S.B. AGED 26 YEARS
GIBSON, JAMES PVT K.O.S.B. AGED 20 YEARS
HALLIDAY, JOHN PVT CANADIANS AGED 32 YEARS
JARDINE, JOHN SERG R.S.F. AGED 31 YEARS
MITCHELL, WILLIAM PVT BORDER HORSE AGED 20 YEARS
MUIR, JAMES SERG CANADIANS AGED 28 YEARS
MUIRHEAD, DAVID PVT R.S.F. AGED 31 YEARS
McCUBBIN, WILLIAM L/CORP CANADIANS AGED 40 YEARS
SMITH, JAMES LIEUT GORDON HIG AGED 36 YEARS
SWAN, JOHN PVT a&s HIGHLANDERS AGED 33 YEARS

“THEIR NAME LIVETH FOR EVERMORE”


AND THOSE WHO GAVE THEIR
LIVES IN THE SECOND GREAT WAR
1939-1945
A.G. McCULLOCH D.S.C. LIEUT. R.N.
Wm McWHIRTER PTE 7TH K.O.S.B
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Interests: Dickson, Bowie, Manderson and Hogg from the Borders. Rammell, Beck, Ireland from Dumries & Galloway.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are the details of the two Second World War names

McCULLOCH, ANDREW CHRISTIAN
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Navy
Unit Text: H.M.S. Laforey.
Age: 28
Date of Death: 30/03/1944
Awards: D S C
Additional information: Son of Major-General Sir Andrew Jameson McCulloch, K.B.E., C.B., D.S.O., D.C.M., D.L., and Lady McCulloch, of Ardwall, Kirkcudbrightshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 81, Column 1.
Memorial: PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL

Note his father's decorations which include the DCM which makes him an ex-ranker. Also note his father was a soldier but Lt McCulloch was a sailor.

McWHIRTER, WILLIAM
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 7th (Airborne) Bn.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 04/04/1944
Service No: 3190876
Additional information: Son of Charles and Jemima McWhirter, of Ruthwell.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: North Extn. Lair 93.
Cemetery: RUTHWELL PARISH CHURCHYARD

I take it Ruthwell and Ardwell are near Lochrutton.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Brown wrote:
Son of Major-General Sir Andrew Jameson McCulloch, K.B.E., C.B., D.S.O., D.C.M., D.L.


I checked Mjr-Gen McCulloch on Google and there is a load of information & photograph of him here:

http://www.21stdivision1914-18.org/mcculloch.htm

It turns out the CWGC have missed some of his awards apart from a Legion of Honour and several mentions in dispatches he had two bars to his DSO! He was also a BA from Oxford.

He was a private in the City of London Imperial Volunteers when he was awarded his DCM in 1901 and then commissioned into the HLI. He was later Colonel of the HLI 1936-1946, at the time his son joined the Navy.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CARSON, THOMAS PVT. KOSB, AGED 21 YEARS.
Thomas Carson, Private (23837) 1st Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers. Age 21.
Working on his father's farm, Barnbackle, Lochrutton, Thomas enlisted in June 1916. he was killed at Ypres when he was hit by a shell and was buried behind the lines.
Born 1896 at Ullioch Farm, Balmaghie, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of James and Andrina (Hogg) Carson.
Killed in action on 13 August 1917 and named on the Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial, Belgium.
Also listed on the Bridgestone (Balmaghie Parish) War Memorial.


ESDAILE, WILLIAM PVT. KOSB, AGED 26 YEARS.
William Esdaile, Private (201792) 1/5th Battalion (Dumfries and Galloway) King's Own Scottish Borderers. Age 26.
William was employed at Barnsoul Farm, Irongray, Kirkcudbrightshire when he enlisted in September 1914 in 8th KOSB. He landed with his battalion at Boulogne in July 1915 and served with the 8th KOSB at Loos and then the 7th/8th Battalion when they combined in May 1916. He then transferred to 1/5th Battalion and served in Egypt, at Gaza and the Somme. He was wounded on three occasions. William died in the 53rd General Hospital in Wimereux.
Born 1896 at Drumicork Cottage, Morton, Dumfriesshire. Son of John and Mary (Docherty) Esdaile of Brae Cottages, Crocketford Road, Lochrutton.
Died of wounds on 5 November 1918 and buried in Terlincthun British Cemetery, Wimille, France.
Also named on the Irongray War Memorials.


GIBSON, JAMES PVT. KOSB, AGED 20 YEARS.
James Gibson, Private (14464) 8th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers. Age 26.
James enlisted in September 1914 and landed with his battalion at Boulogne in July 1915. He served at the battle of Loos and Hill 60.
Born 1896 at Lochrutton. Son of Samuel and Isabella (McCowan) Gibson of Lochfoot, Lochrutton.
Missing in action on 14 May 1916 and named on the Loos Memorial, France. Also named on the Irongray War Memorials.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HALLIDAY, JOHN PVT. CANADIANS, AGED 32 YEARS.
John Gillespie Halliday, Private (931148) 2nd Canadian Mounted Rifles Battalion. Age 32.
John was a gardener in Boswell when enlisted in March 1916 at Nelson, British Columbia where he was a member of the local militia, the 107th East Kootenay Regiment. He gave his next of kin as his mother Jane Halliday of Lochfoot, Lochrutton. He sailed from Halifax, Nova Scotia in January 1917 and was posted to the 2nd CMR in France in April. John was killed at Amiens.
Born (as James Halliday) 1890 at Howliggate, Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of Thomas and Jane (Gillespie) Halliday of Lochfoot, Lochrutton.
Killed in action on 8 August 1918 and buried in the Caix British Cemetery, France.


JARDINE, JOHN SERT. RSF, AGED 31 YEARS.
John Jardine, Lance Sergeant (295990) 12th (Ayr and Lanark Yeomanry) Battalion, Royal Scots Fusiliers. Age 31.
John had been a postman in Dumfries since 1904 when he enlisted in the 1/1st Lanarkshire Yeomanry and as Corporal (2141) he landed with his battalion, as dismounted troops, at Gallipoli in October 1915. He was transferred to the 12th RSF in Egypt and served in Palestine (Gaza and Jerusalem)
Born 1886 at Lochrutton. Son of the late John Jardine of Lochfoot, Lochrutton and of Anne (Boyd) Jardine of 7 Balmoral Road, Greenbrae, Dumfries.
In 1901 John, age 14, was a Telegraph Messenger and was living with his family in Maxwelltown.
Husband of Margaret (Hamilton) Jardine who he married in 1913 in Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire.
Missing in action on 8 December 1917 during the attack on the heights to the west of Jerusalem and named on the Jerusalem Memorial, Israel.
Also named on the Dumfries War Memorial, on the Torthorwald Parish War Memorial in Collin Village, on the Dumfries Post Office memorial and on the St Mary's Church memorial in Dumfries.
12th Battalion, RSF was formed in Egypt in January 1917 from the men of the Ayrshire Yeomanry and the Lanarkshire Yeomanry who had fought as dismounted troops at Gallipoli.


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MITCHELL, WILLIAM PVT. BORDER HORSE, AGED 20 YEARS.
William Stitt Mitchell, Private (107708) Machine Gun Corps (Infantry) Age 20.
William enlisted in March 1917 in the Lothian and Borders Horse Yeomanry. He was posted to the MGC and served in Italy (Asiago Plateau) and then at Ypres.
Born 1898 at Longbeoch Cottages, Irongray. The birth was also registered at Lochrutton. Son of William and Janet (Moffat) of Gateside, Lochrutton. Later of Screel, Castle Douglas and of Stockerton, KIrkcudbright.
Died 27 April 1919, of a inner ear infection, at Stockerton, Kirkcudbright and buried, in a CWG, in Kirkcudbright (St. Cuthbert) Old Churchyard.
On the Death Register he is listed as a Private MGC 1st Reserve.


MUIR, JAMES SERT. CANADIANS, AGED 28 YEARS.
James Muir, Segeant (442133) 7th Battalion, Canadian Infantry (British Columbia Regiment) Age 28.
James was a farmer when enlisted in June 1915 at Vernon, British Columbia and was posted to the 7th CIF in August. He served at Vimy Ridge and at Hill 70 where he was reported missing and presumed killed.
Born 1889 at Chapmanton, Castle Douglas, Crossmichael. Son of Robert (a Railwayman) and Jessie Muir of Lochanhead Station, Lochrutton and of Maxwell St. Dalbeattie. Husband of Agnes (Boyd) Muir of Gallowflat St. Rutherglen, Glasgow who he married in 1917 at Rutherglen.
Missing in action on 15 August 1917 and named on the Vimy Memorial, France.
Also named on the Rutherglen War Memorial, Lanarkshire.
During the assault on Hill 70, near Lens, 6 Officers and 78 Other Ranks were lost from the battalion.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MUIRHEAD, DAVID PVT. RSF, AGED 28 YEARS.
David Muirhead, Private (205148) 4th Reserve Battalion, Royal Scots Fusiliers. Age 29.
David enlisted in June 1917 but died on 17 September as the result of injuries sustained during a railway accident, two days earlier, at Catterick Camp in Yorkshire.
Born 1878 at Auchenfad, Auchencairn, Rerrick, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of James and Jane (Walker) Muirhead. Husband of Susan (Ireland) Muirhead of Lochfoot, Lochrutton who he married in 1914 at Lochrutton.
Killed on active service on 17 September 1917 and buried in a CWG in Lochrutton Parish Churchyard.
David's story can be found in Stuart Wilson's book - Answering the Call, Auchencairn and the First World War.


McCUBBING, WILLIAM L/CORP. CANADIANS, AGED 40 YEARS.
William McCubbing, Military Medal, Lance Corporal (2336301) 50th Battalion, Canadian Infantry (Alberta Regiment) Age 39.
After being in Canada for about 13 years, William was working as a butcher when he enlisted in April 1917 at Calgary, Alberta in 103rd Regiment (Calgary Rifles) He was posted to the 50th Battalion and was wounded at Lens. He died in the 7th Casualty Clearing Station at Ligny-St. Flochel.
Born 1878 at Kissock, New Abbey. Son of John and Sarah Redmond (Drummond) McCubbing of Drum, Lochrutton and, later, of Laurieknowe Maxwelltown, Kirkcudbrightshire. Husband of Agnes (Austin) McCubbing of Calgary, Alberta who he married in 1905 at Dumfries.
Died of wounds on 5 September 1918 and buried in the Ligny-St.Flochel British Cemetery, Averdoingt, France.
Also named on the New Abbey WW1 Memorial, on the Beeswing Village WW1 Memorial and on the Maxwelltown/Troqueer War Memorial.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SMITH, JAMES LIEUT. GORDON HIGH., AGED 36 YEARS.
James Smith, Second Lieutenant: Combined 8th/10th Battalion, Gordon Highlanders. Age 36.
James was educated at Laurieknowe School, Maxwelltown and at Dumfries Academy.
A solicitor, he served his apprenticeship in Dumfries before taking up a post with J&J Turnbull of Edinburgh. He enlisted in October 1914 as a Private (18066) in the Royal Scots and was gazetted as a 2nd Lt. in the Gordons in June 1915. Posted to the 8/10th GH in March 1916 he was killed at Arras.
Born 1881 at Lochrutton. Son of the late James Smith of Lochside, Lochrutton and of Catherine (Wilson) Smith of Fernwood, Maxwelltown.
Killed in action on 9 April 1917 and buried in the Feuchy Chapel British Cemetery,Wancourt, France.
Also named on the Maxwelltown and Troqueer War Memorial, on the Troqueer Parish Church Memorial and on the Laurieknowe School and Dumfries Academy memorials.


SWAN, JOHN PVT. A&S HIGHLANDERS, AGED 33 YEARS.
John Swan, Private (5560) 1/7th (Fife) Battalion, Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) Age 33.
John was educated at Dumfries Academy and apprenticed in Law with John Grierson the Town Clerk of Dumfries. He subsequently qualified after studying at Edinburgh University. At the outbreak of war he was employed by P&J Stormonth-Darling of Kelso and enlisted in November 1915 in the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders but was transferred to the Black Watch. He died in the 45th Casualty Clearing Station after being wounded in action the previous evening.
Born 1888 at Barwhan, Lochrutton. Son of William and Annie (Alston) Swan.
Died of wounds on 1 August 1916 and buried in Daours Communal Cemetery Extension, France.
Also named on the Dumfries Academy Memorial.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1939 - 1945

A. C. McCULLOCH, DSC, LIEUT., RN
.
Andrew Christian McCulloch, Distinguished Service Cross, Lieutenant, HMS Laforay, Royal Navy. Age 28.
Born 1915 at St.Andrew's, Edinburgh. Son of Major General Sir Andrew Jameson McCulloch and Lady Esme Valentine (MacKenzie) McCulloch of Ardwall, Gatehouse-of-Fleet and of Hills, Lochrutton.
Awarded the DSC for actions in the Mediterranean in preventing the escape of enemy forces after their defeat in North Africa.
Missing in action on 30 March 1944 when the Destroyer HMS Laforay was hit by three torpedoes from U223 during a surface action between the U-boat and several Destroyers. Only 65 of the ship's company survived.
Named on the Portsmouth Naval Memorial, on the Beeswing Village WW2 Memorial and on the War Memorial in Gatehouse-of-Fleet.


Wm. McWHIRTER, PTE. 7th KOSB.
William McWhirter, Private (3190876) 7th (Airborne) Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers (Galloway), 1st Airlanding Brigade. Age 22.
William was killed during a training exercise when a Stirling bomber of 196 Squadron, towing a Horsa Glider carrying No.3 Platoon, “A” Company, 7th KOSB, hit a tree on high ground and crashed. His death was registered at Droxford in Hampshire.
Born 1921 at Parton, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of Charles and Jemima McWhirter of Longbridgemuir, Ruthwell, Dumfriesshire.
Killed on active service on 4 April 1944 and buried in a CWG in Ruthwell Parish Churchyard.
Also named on the Ruthwell War Memorial.
(Note: on the Ruthwell War Memorial his age is given as 19)


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This church was sold about 5 years ago. It is currently still fitted with pews etc. About two and a half years ago, one of the window frames blew in and the building is no longer weathertight. A local resident believes that the owner has not visited in that time and is not aware of any plans for the church. The church itself is listed Cat B but no specific mention is made of the memorial.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

local people are currently investigating the possibility of getting this memorial moved to a central location in the village where it can once again act as a focus for remembrance. Further details available on request.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest update is that the costs of moving this memorial appear to be prohibitive and there are real concerns about whether it can be achieved succesfully (£2000 + is an optomistic cost for moving it).
A local group is now investigating whether they can raise funds for a new memorial in a central location in the village.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The memorial was erected in 1919 at a cost of £160 - £170

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