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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Monymusk War Memorial Reply with quote

MONYMUSK
UKNIWM Ref: 8609

Address
MONYMUSK
GRAMPIAN
SCOTLAND

OS Map Ref: NY 685 153

Located in the Square, Monymusk

The memorial is of Kemnay granite, the work of Messrs Bower & Florence.
It was unveiled by Col. Sir Arthur Grant of Monymusk on 21st November 1920






WW1 names. Unusually the man's unit, date and place of death are given.



WW2 names
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great information on the memorial - gives address, where & when died. Excellent
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhubthaigh wrote:
Great information on the memorial - gives address, where & when died. Excellent


Yes but only for the Great War. For the Second World War it is names only. It is strange that they didn't even give the local address to follow the precedence of the First World War names.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This memorial is a researchers dream. Excellent.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just received the following from a correspondant (tried to encourage him to post in the future):

"Just done some research on the VAD, Maggie Durno, unfortunately she does not appear on CWGC or SNWM. However there are six Durnos' listed and two of them appear to be her brothers or at least related.

1. Pte. Leslie Durno - Seaforths - Son of Barbara J. & late Alexander Durno, Grant Lodge, Kenway - on SNWM

2. Pte J.A.L. Durno - Gordons - Son of Alexander & Barbara Durno, Kenway - Not on SNWM

So a sad period for the Durno family"
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are, without doubt Maggie's brothers.

In the 1901 Census all are at Lechangie, Kemnay where their father is farming.
James A L Durno, age 6 born Kemnay
Margaret I K Durno, age 4 born Kemnay
Leslie N M Durno, age 1 born Kemnay.

It looks as if the father died and the widow and family moved to Grant Lodge in the neighbouring parish of Monymusk during the war. There is reference to both addresses on the CWGC listings.

I am unsure if VAD nurses were included by CWGC if not died due to enemy action. I am having checks at CWGC made and will advise result.

It may be that this was the entire family of Alexander and Barbara Durno.

Addendum, re CWGC

" VADs were one of the Recognised Civilian Organisations.

As such, they only qualify for CWGC commemoration and war grave status if they died both on duty AND of a war cause.

The majority of VAD deaths would not meet both these requirements although many were included on local war memorials.

Serving overseas at death qualified as 'on duty'. A VAD dying in the UK would have difficulty in qualifying under the 'war cause' half of the required qualification. A 'war cause' could be enemy action or a disease caught through nursing etc but not a road accident in the UK or dying at home of flu. "


Hope this clears things up.

Her death was recorded at Woolwich, London.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maggie Durno and her brothers are named on the Kemnay War Memorial, their parish of birth. They are also named on the Blairdaff War Memorial/

See

http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?p=5131#5131


Pte James A.L. Durno
Pte Leslie N.M. Durno
Margaret I.K. Durno
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:43 pm    Post subject: Monymusk and Kemnay Memorials Reply with quote

Regarding Maggie Durno.

Way back in my boyhood days I lived in Woolwich, London and the only established major Military Hospital then was the Royal Herbert Hospital, Shooter's Hill Road. It was certainly there prior to WWI, I have not been able to identify any other military hospitals in the area so I must assume that young Maggie served at the Royal Herbert.

Unfortunately the hospital disappeared sometime in the 1960's

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WWI ROLL OF HONOUR:
BAIRD WILLIAM R. CANADIANS LANCE SERGEANT MILITARY MEDAL CAMBRAI 29/9/1918 THE VILLAGE CANADIAN HIGHLANDERS
BUCHAN JAMES GORDON HIGHLANDERS LANCE CORPORAL HIGH WOOD 20/7/1916 THE VILLAGE
BUCHAN JOHN GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE FESTUBERT 17/5/1915 THE VILLAGE
DURNO JAMES A.L. GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE THE SOMME 13/11/1916 GRANT LODGE
DURNO LESLIE N.M. SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE THE MARNE 26/7/1918 GRANT LODGE
DURNO MAGGIE I.K. VOLUNTARY AID DETACHMENT WOOLWICH 14/9/1918 GRANT LODGE
HORNE JAMES ROYAL FIELD ARTILLERY GUNNER WALES 22/10/1918 THE VILLAGE
LOW GEORGE SCOTS GUARDS PRIVATE BAILLEULMONT 9/4/1918 MOSS-SIDE COULLIE
MARR ALEXANDER M. ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS CORPORAL MILITARY MEDAL NOREUIL 2/9/1918 TILLYFOURIE
NICOLL DAVID GORDON HIGHLANDERS SERGEANT NEUVE CHAPELLE 13/3/1915 TILLYFOURIE
REID HUGH W. GORDON HIGHLANDERS LANCE CORPORAL LA BASSEE 10/5/1918 YONDERTON
ROBERTSON MICHAEL B. SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS SERGEANT MILITARY MEDAL WYSCHAETERIDGE 11/4/1918 THE VILLAGE
SKINNER ROBERT SCOTTISH HORSE PRIVATE VENDHUILLE3/10/1918 UPPER INVER
SMITH HENRY D. CANADIANS ABLE SEAMAN QUEBEC 27/4/1918 PITFICHIE CANADIAN NAVY
SORRIE WILLIAM CANADIANS PRIVATE AMIENS 10/8/1918 GLENTON CROFT 8TH CANADIANS
STRACHAN JOHN ROYAL GARRISON ARTILLERY GUNNER RHEIMS - SOISSONS 30/5/1918 THE VILLAGE
WILSON ANNIE R.N.R. SISTER LEITH 5/11/1918 DELAB



WWII ROLL OF HONOUR:
CAULD GEORGE
CONNON ROBERT
DAWSON JAMES
GRANT ARTHUR L.
HALL NORMAN
MACKIE JOHN
MILNE GEORGE
RIDDELL WILLIAM
RYRIE DONALD B.
TEVENDALE WILLIAM
URQUHART LESLIE
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An update on Margaret Durno. The British Red Cross do not have a record of her being a registered member of their society but she was a paid employee of the Joint War Committee of the BRC & O of St. John as a Laundress at the Brook War Hospital, just down the road from the Royal Herbert Hospital that I suggested earlier. I was unaware that this hospital was taken over as a War Hospital. However like the Royal Herbert it no longer exists and is now a residential area.

Margaret was employed as a member of the ‘Norfolk Reserve’ from 19th July 1918 until her death, age 21, on 14th September at the Brook War Hospital. The cause of death, (1) Influenza, (2) Broncho pneumonia Toxaemia. At the moment I have no indication as to where she is buried but would probably be either Plumstead or Woolwich Cemetery, SE. London unless her body was taken, by family request to Scotland.

If anybody is aware of Margaret being buried in Scotland I would appreciate details and, if possible, a photograph of her grave, will save an unnecessary journey up to London.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monymusk War Memorial.

Private Robert Skinner

Born: 1896 In Monymusk
Parents: Charles Lumsden Skinner (Farmer) and Margaret Jane Skinner
Siblings: Charles Skinner (1901-1908), Agnes Skinner (1899-1965) and Emily Skinner (1904-1959)
Rank: Private
Number: 315706
Regiment corps etc: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Battalion etc: 13th (Scottish Horse) Battalion
Enlisted: Inverurie, Aberdeenshire
Died Date: 3 Oct 1918
Died How: Killed in action
Theatre of War: France & Flanders

Information from Black Watch war diary from day Robert Skinner was killed:
"151 Brigade attacked Le Catelet and Gouy. 2nd Royal Dublin Fusiliers and C Company Scottish Horse co-operating. Line established ran from North edge of Le Catelet - Gouy - Macquincourt Farm, thence north west along Canal Bank. In these operations C Company, Scottish Horse, moved forwardat 0612 hours from Hidden Trench to Canal Bank being in touch with 2nd R Dublin Fusiliers on their right. There was considerable sniping causing several casualties. D Copany moved forward to Hidden Trench. During night B Company relieved 3rd Royal Fusiliers who were withdrawn for a separate operation on the Brigade's right and D Company moved to Tino Trench. Officer casualties Lieuts R Inglis and L W Jones (Lieut Inglis since died of wounds). Other Ranks casualties 13 killed, 24 wounded."
BWRA 0251 Oct 1918 App 1.
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Link to CWGC: http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=177787


I also have trench maps for these locations from some very nice people on another forum, as well as a bit more info on the Scottish Horse.

I hope I have posted this all correctly!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:10 pm    Post subject: More info about Robert Skinner Reply with quote

He was born at Monymusk.
His name appears on the Aberdeen City Roll of Honour.
He also is on the GNSR Memorial.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MICHAEL ROBERTSON

Rank: Serjeant
Service No: S/7050
Date of Death: 11/04/1918
Age: 32
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders "A" Coy. 9th Bn.
Awards: M M
Grave Reference III. B. 19.
Cemetery WYTSCHAETE MILITARY CEMETERY

Additional Information:

Son of Margaret Fraser Robertson, of 3, The Square, Monymusk, Aberdeenshire, and the late William Robertson. Enlisted Sept., 1914.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:29 am    Post subject: Michael B Robertson update of info Reply with quote

Michael Bruce Robertson Sjt S/7050 MM 9th Seaforth Highlanders b Monymusk 04/09/1885 e Edinburgh Age 32 Killed in Action F & F 11/04/1918 2nd son of Margaret Fraser Robertson, 3 The Square, Monymusk & the late William Robertson. 1891 Census: Deans Cottages, Monymusk. Enlisted Sept 1914 Formerly 14602 Royal Scots MM The Roll of Honour: Vol IV page 171. Occ: Mason Contractor. Monymusk Memorial: The Village. Monymusk MI: A160. Soldiers Effects: Mo: Margaret. Service Returns: 128/AF 231 Age 31. Soldiers Will 4 Pages. Wytschaete Military Cemetery B 074 Plot III Row B Grave 19 ADJ 02-05-18 RoH P 1 ADJ 03-05-18 Page 4: Dis Cas: Monymusk

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William Ross Baird L/sjt 141158 MM 42nd Canadian Inf (Quebec Regt) born Leochel Cushnie 31/12/1896 enlisted Niagara on the Lake Age 22 Died of Wounds F & F 10-Oct-18 Son of Mr & Mrs Baird, Seafield Arms Hotel, Rothes, Morayshire. 1901 Census 214/3/5/19 : Milton Croft, Cairncoullie. Son of William Baird, Blacksmith. Can. Records: NoK: Mother: Mary Ann Baird. Occ: Farmer. Monymusk Memorial: The Village. Etaples Military Cemetery Fr 0040 Plot LXV Row H Grave 15
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