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stuartn
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 Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:29 pm Post subject: Conaglen & Locheilside |
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There is a marble tablet in Ardgour Church to the men from Conaglen and Locheilside who served in WW1. It commemorates 38 men and 1 woman of whom 6 fell
It was originally in the private Episcopal Chapel at Conaglen House, 4 miles north of Ardgour, until the chapel was deconsecrated in the early 1950's.
It is WMR report 79876.
Full details and an image are here- http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Invernessshire/Conaglen.html
I have also tried to trace the 6 casualties, and can also trace only 1 of them.
According to 'The Peerage' the Hon Ronald Douglas of HMS Zedwhale died on 31 Jan 1922, aged 31, so not at all an obvious war death.
Amongst those who served and returned the 19th Earl of Morton is shown with a rank of HCW. According to 'The Peerage' this stands for Head Coast Watcher. I cannot find out anything about HMY Mailsta, especially concerning how the Countess of Morton (the 19th Earl's Wife) was serving on her.
All in all there are more than a few mysteries regarding this memorial.
CASUALTY DETAILS-
1. Motor Boatman
BOYD, MALCOLM
Service Number MB/244
Died 22/12/1914
Aged 42
H.M. Motor Boat "California." (Motor Boat Reserve)
Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve
Son of the late Duncan Boyd and Ann Kennedy Boyd. Born at Blaich, Fort William.
Buried at Kielamhdoan Old Churchyard, half a mile north of Ardgour
2. Lieut Hon Ronald Douglas- HMS Zedwhale: NOT traced, there is substantial doubt from the Navy Lists as to whether he actually died: see the reference to this rather interesting ship. According to 'The Peerage' he died on 31 Jan 1922 aged 31, so this is not an obvious war death.
3. Angus Cameron, Cameron Highlanders-insufficient information to trace
4. Roderick McIntyre, RASC-not traced
5. Angus Cameron, Lovat Scouts - no casualty traced in CWGC records but MAY be Private
CAMERON, JOHN McINTOSH
Service Number 2196
Died 28/11/1915
Aged 33
"A" Sqdn. 1st
Lovat Scouts
Son of Duncan and Mrs. M. Cameron, of Muirshearlich, Banavie, Inverness-shire.
6. James Gilmour- NOT LISTED on CWGC, there are no 'Gilmour's' of the Lovat Scouts listed |
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Kenneth Morrison
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Location: Rockcliffe Dalbeattie
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Wrong regiment but resident in the correct area (I think)
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Name: Roderick Macintyre
Birth Place: Kilmallie, Inverness-shire
Residence: Trislaig, Fort William, Inverness-shire
Death Date: 25 Jul 1917
Death Place: France and Flanders
Enlistment Place: Inverness, Inverness-shire
Rank: Private
Regiment: Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders
Battalion: 7th Battalion
Regimental Number: S/26385
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Mod Edit: Adam. CWGC details added
CWGC
Private
McINTYRE, R
Service Number S/26385
Died 25/07/1917
Aged 19
7th Bn. Cameron Highlanders
Son of Mr. and Mrs. D. McIntyre, of 2, Trislaig, Fort William, Argyllshire.
Buried: Ypres Town Cemetery Extension
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Kenneth Morrison
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Another Kilmallie man
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Name: Angus Cameron
Birth Place: Kilmallie, Argyllshire
Residence: Fort William, Inverness-shire
Death Date: 19 Jul 1918
Death Place: France and Flanders
Enlistment Place: Inverness, Inverness-shire
Rank: Private
Regiment: Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders
Battalion: 5th Battalion
Regimental Number: S/30726
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
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stuartn
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Well done, Ken.
Trislaig (Treslaig) is on the south shore of Loch Eil, so definetly the right area. CWGC has no next of kin details for Angus Cameron (and only has him as A Cameron), so no wonder I couldn't find him.
Kilmallie Parish, then, apparently covered Ardgour, so everything fits. |
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Adam Brown
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: Conaglen & Locheilside |
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| stuartn wrote: | | According to 'The Peerage' the Hon Ronald Douglas of HMS Zedwhale died on 31 Jan 1922, aged 31, so not at all an obvious war death. |
According to this website it was through an illness contracted on war service. He was however outside the period commemorated by the CWGC.
http://www.douglashistory.co.uk/history/ronalddouglas.htm
Hon. Ronald John Sholto Douglas was born on 22 April 1890, the son of Sholto George Douglas, 19th Earl of Morton and Hon. Helen Geraldine Ponsonby.
He married Alexandra Albertha Jean Hamilton, daughter of Admiral Sir Frederick Tower Hamilton and Maria Walpole Keppel, on 28 June 1920. They had a daughter, Victoria Maria Douglas, b. 25 Mar 1921, d. 9 Dec 1994
He fought in the First World War as a Lieutenant in the the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve. He was invested as a Officer, Order of the British Empire (O.B.E.).
He served on HMS Zedwhale
He died on 31 January 1922 at age 31, from illness contracted in the War |
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WilliamD
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: Conaglen & Locheilside |
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| stuartn wrote: | There is a marble tablet in Ardgour Church to the men from Conaglen and Locheilside who served in WW1. It commemorates 38 men and 1 woman of whom 6 fell
It was originally in the private Episcopal Chapel at Conaglen House, 4 miles north of Ardgour, until the chapel was deconsecrated in the early 1950's.
It is WMR report 79876.
Full details and an image are here- http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Invernessshire/Conaglen.html
I have also tried to trace the 6 casualties, and can also trace only 1 of them.
According to 'The Peerage' the Hon Ronald Douglas of HMS Zedwhale died on 31 Jan 1922, aged 31, so not at all an obvious war death.
Amongst those who served and returned the 19th Earl of Morton is shown with a rank of HCW. According to 'The Peerage' this stands for Head Coast Watcher. I cannot find out anything about HMY Mailsta, especially concerning how the Countess of Morton (the 19th Earl's Wife) was serving on her.
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The Earl of Morton's yacht was the Majesta, not Mailsta. He acquired it on 14th August 1913 and sold it to James Napier in 1927 who subsequently sold it to the Earl of Arran in 1939 after which it was requisitioned for war service.
More here: http://www.fleetwood-trawlers.info/index.php/2015/07/s-y-john-fell-2/
The memorial was, I think, not erected at Conaglen til after Ronald's death, explaining why he is shown as a casualty. The Zedwhale and HMML 65 were involved in arranging the German fleet surrender. There is a mystery around 'Q' ship operations involving William and presumably HMML 65 in the Firth of Forth. One of the family also served on HMML 324.
A 1936 obituary in the Times for the Reverend Frederick Thomas Gardner tells of the rector being on board the Earl of Morton's yacht doing minesweeper duties on the west coast of Scotland. |
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