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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: DOWALLY, WW1 Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't inside the church as it was locked so I don't know about plaques/scrolls/windows internally at the moment;
Here are details of those commemorated;

Surname McDONALD
Firstname John A
Service Number 266719
Date Death 24/10/1918
Decoration
Place of birth Dowally Ballinluig Perthshire
Other 1st Bn.
SNWM roll THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank Pte
Theatre of death F.& F.

Name: MacDONALD, JOHN ALEXANDER
Initials: J A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Age: 31
Date of Death: 24/10/1918
Service No: 266719
Additional information: Son of John and Mary MacDonald, of Balledmund Farm, Ballinling, Perthshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: A. 17.
Cemetery: LA VALLEE-MULATRE COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION

Name: McDONALD, ROBERT
Initials: R
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Canadian Motor Machine Gun Brigade
Unit Text: 1st
Age: 21
Date of Death: 09/08/1918
Service No: 888271
Additional information: Son of Donald and Helen McDonald, of Countlich Farm, Melfort, Saskatchewan. Native of Perthshire, Scotland.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. B. 9.
Cemetery: LONGUEAU BRITISH CEMETERY
http://data4.collectionscanada.ca/netacgi/nph-brs?s1=&s2=&s3=888271&Sect4=AND&l=20&Sect1=IMAGE&Sect2=THESOFF&Sect5=CEF6PEN&Sect6=HITOFF&d=CEF6&p=1&u=http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/cef/001042-100.01-e.html&r=1&f=G

Surname MENZIES
Firstname John
Service Number 3289
Date Death 31/03/1916
Decoration
Place of birth Ballinluig Perthshire
Other 6th Bn.
SNWM roll THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank Pte
Theatre of death F.& F.

Name: MENZIES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 6th Bn.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 31/03/1916
Service No: 3289
Additional information: Son of Jane Menzies, of Kindallachan, Ballinluig, Perthshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. A. 18.
Cemetery: AUBIGNY COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION

Surname MUNRO
Firstname Robert
Service Number S/42166
Date Death 12/09/1918
Decoration
Place of birth Guay Perthshire
Other 6th Bn.
SNWM roll THE GORDON HIGHLANDERS
Rank Pte
Theatre of death F.& F.

Name: MUNRO, ROBERT
Initials: R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Gordon Highlanders
Unit Text: 6th Bn.
Date of Death: 12/09/1918
Service No: S/42166
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 10.
Memorial: VIS-EN-ARTOIS MEMORIAL


Surname ROBERTSON
Firstname Robert
Service Number 292695
Date Death 28/10/1918
Decoration
Place of birth Dalguise Perthshire
Other 9th Bn.
SNWM roll THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank Pte
Theatre of death F.& F.

Name: ROBERTSON, ROBERT
Initials: R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 9th Bn.
Age: 29
Date of Death: 28/10/1918
Service No: 292695
Additional information: Son of David and Helen Robertson, of Lochgoilhead, Argyll.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. G. 14.
Cemetery: NIEDERZWEHREN CEMETERY


Surname ROBERTSON
Firstname William
Service Number 266103
Date Death 28/05/1918
Decoration
Place of birth Dowally Perthshire
Other 6th Bn.
SNWM roll THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank Pte
Theatre of death F.& F.

Name: ROBERTSON
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 1st/6th Bn.
Age: 25
Date of Death: 28/05/1918
Service No: 266103
Additional information: Son of David Robertson, of Kilmorich, Ballinluig, Perthshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: VI. D. 14.
Cemetery: ROCLINCOURT MILITARY CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:27 pm    Post subject: Dowally Reply with quote

This is within Dunkeld Cathedral in the archive room.
Following is link to their site. Note opening times.
http://www.dunkeldcathedral.org.uk/chapter_house_museum.htm

Apologies for poor photos.





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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I notice that the Roll of Honour has five names underlined but the memorial lists six names. Looking at the memorial again the last name is out of sequence with a date of September 1918.

They did a very god job of adding Robert Munro's name, at first glance it isn't obvious that his name wasn't added at the same time as the others. If you look closely though you will see the 'T' in Pte. is different.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done John - beat me to it.

This has been on my list for months. Will still get in for some pics though Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only lad who appears on the WW1 Memorial but not on the Roll of Honour is Robert K. Munro, late of Kilmorich.
His mother was living in Perth at the time of his death. From the newspapers I found this intimation:

THE PEOPLE'S JOURNAL: 28.09.1918
FOR THEIR COUNTRY


MUNRO - Killed in action on 12th September, Pte. Robert K. Munro, Gordon Highlanders, youngest son of Mrs Munro, 36 West Mill St., Perth, aged 18 years and 10 months.

Dear son of my bosom, you sleep with the brave,
Where no mother's tear can e'er drop on your grave;
In the red fields of France you are laid far away,
But my fond thoughts are with you forever and aye.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Brown wrote:
I notice that the Roll of Honour has five names underlined but the memorial lists six names. Looking at the memorial again the last name is out of sequence with a date of September 1918.

They did a very god job of adding Robert Munro's name, at first glance it isn't obvious that his name wasn't added at the same time as the others. If you look closely though you will see the 'T' in Pte. is different.

Regards

Adam


Just looked fully over the thread - well spotted. I am not seeing a match for Robert in the 1901 census on Ancestry.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhubthaigh wrote:
Adam Brown wrote:
I notice that the Roll of Honour has five names underlined but the memorial lists six names. Looking at the memorial again the last name is out of sequence with a date of September 1918.

They did a very god job of adding Robert Munro's name, at first glance it isn't obvious that his name wasn't added at the same time as the others. If you look closely though you will see the 'T' in Pte. is different.

Regards

Adam


Just looked fully over the thread - well spotted. I am not seeing a match for Robert in the 1901 census on Ancestry.

I agree, no obvious sign of him in 1901. There is a suitable birth on ScotlandsPeople for Robert Kenneth Munro in 1899 in Kilmorich, Dowally.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correction: Robert Kennedy Munro.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update: He is there in Kilmorich, Dowally in 1901 as Robert Kennedy, son of Jane Munro (widow). That goes along with the birth certficate which lists him as illegitimate son of Jane Munro (widow). The best guess is that his father was a Mr Kennedy.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that. I thought that it may have been the case that he was illegitimate.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tablet supplied by Messrs Ramage&Cooper,Perth and built in by Messrs JDKennedy,Kilmorich,Ballinluig
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perthshire Advertiser Wednesday 17th March 1920

DOWALLY MEMORIAL SERVICE


On Sunday afternoon a beautiful tablet of grey granite in memory of those who fell in the Great War,was unveiled by Rev Thomas.A.Rutherford,M.A.,minister of Dunkeld and Dowally,in the parish church of Dowally.Owing to the stormy weather the ceremony was held in the church.There was a crowded congregation.After the unveiling ceremony,and when the names of the fallen had been read,the organist played"The Flowers of the Forest" and "The Land of the Leah".Mr Rutherford took his text from the Book of Joshua,and referred to the memorial stones built by the children of Israel,which stood to this day.Even so had they erected the memorial on the sacred walls of the Church of God,so that all succeeding generations might see and revere the names of the gallant lads who had gone forth at duty`s call,fought valiantly,even to the death,and who now rested with God.He made touching reference as to seeing them there,and of knowing how gladly they laid down their lives in the cause of human justice and righteousness.
At the conclusion of the service the Funeral March was played,during which the congregation remained standing,and all were deeply impressed by the touching ceremony.A special collection was taken in aid of the Perth Royal Infirmary.
The tablet,which is of very chaste design,is of Aberdeen grey granite,with rough granite facings,and is built in the south wall of the church.It bears the following inscription in large lettering:

To the Glory of God,and in fond and affectionate memory of the undermentioned who fell in the Great War,1914-1919.This tablet is erected by parishioners and friends.

Pte.John Menzies,Kindallachan,died in France ,31st March,1916
Pte. William Robertson,Tom of Kilmorlich,died in France,28th May 1918
Pte.Robert Macdonald(late Countlich),died in France,8th August 1918
Pte.John Macdonald,Baledmund,died in France, 24th October,1918
Pte.Robert Robertson,Tom of Kilmorlich,died in Germany,28th October 1918

Greater Love hath no man than this,that he lay down his life for a friend


The memorial tablet was supplied by Messrs Ramage&Cooper,Perth and was built in by Messrs J&D Kennedy,building contractors,Kilmorich,Ballinluig



Eagle eyed viewers will spot the little discrepancies between the press report and the reality-nothing changes!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:09 pm    Post subject: Robert K Munro GH Reply with quote

Robert K Munro Private S/42166 6th Bn. Gordon Highlanders b Guay, Perth. e Perth Age 18 Killed in Action Pas de Calais, France 12/09/1918 Son of Mrs Jane Munro, 36 West Mill St; Perth. Soldiers Effects: Mother: Jane. Short Service: Occ: Lorryman. 19 Pages. Late of Kilmorich. Vis-En-Artois Memorial M. R. 16 Panel 10 PJ 28-09-18
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