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spoons

Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 4144 Location: St John's Town of Dalry
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject: Isle of Whithorn |
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UKNIWM Ref: 44432
Location is in Isle of Whithorn beside the bowling green at OS Map Ref NX 475 366.
As a piece of trivia…………. this is the southernmost civic memorial in Scotland although there are 2 memorials inside Isle of Whithorn church which is actually a couple of hundred yards further south.
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spoons

Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 4144 Location: St John's Town of Dalry
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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WW1 Names:
SEC LIEUT ANDREW STEWART MA MC NORD FUS
DAVID ROBB CHIEF ENGNR SS KALIBIA MFA
NATHAN BIE CHIEF OFFICER SS BRENTWOOD
2ND HAND JOHN McCUBBIN HMS JAMES & WALTER
CORP ROBERT JOHNSTON KOSB
L CORP JOHN PATERSON R SCOTS
PTE FREDERICK NIBLOCK RSF
PTE JAMES A McLURE A&SH
SAPPER ALEXANDER CAIN RE
PTE DANIEL CAIN RAMC
AB JAMES HANNAH DRAKE BATT RND
OS WILLIAM McROBERT RND HMS VIVID
WW2 Names:
RANDOLPH CRAWLEY
MARTIN MAGUIRE
JOHN McGUIRE
ANTHONY PRINGLE
JOHN WEAVER
The first name listed (Andrew Stewart) was the Minister of Isle of Whithorn church but was commissioned as an infantry officer. There is a memorial giving his story in Isle of Whithorn church and I will be posting this in the next day or so.
David Robb died on the Steamship Kalibia. The ship was torpedoed and sunk by a German submarine 29 miles SW of the Lizard on 30th November 1917. Twenty five men were killed and the captain was among the survivors. |
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Adam Brown Curator

Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 5961 Location: Edinburgh (From Sutherland)
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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One entry caught my eye
2ND HAND JOHN McCUBBIN HMS JAMES & WALTER
There's only one RN John McCubbin on the CWGC database and the same man is the only McCubbin on the SNWM database who served in the Navy.
Name: McCUBBIN, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Able Seaman
Regiment/Service: Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: Hawke Bn. R.N. Div.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 20/12/1916
Service No: Clyde Z/5247
Additional information: Son of John and Elizabeth McCubbin, of 16, Palace St., Parkhead, Glasgow.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: N. 2244.
Cemetery: GLASGOW (SANDYMOUNT) CEMETERY
Is it the same man on the memorial? What is HMS James & Walter. Is it perhaps an RNR Tralwer? |
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spoons

Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 4144 Location: St John's Town of Dalry
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:17 am Post subject: |
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| Adam Brown wrote: |
Is it the same man on the memorial? What is HMS James & Walter. Is it perhaps an RNR Tralwer? |
I tried to find him myself but with no luck. I actually tried all the J McCubbins just in case. Could not find HMS James and Walter on google which is quite unusual. Perhaps it was a 'land ship' like HMS Drake and HMS Vivid?
\Paul |
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DerekR Moderator

Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2759 Location: Hawick, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Sec.Lt. Andrew Stewart M.C of the 10th Bn. Northumberland Fusiliers was killed near Ypres 20/09/1917.
He is buried in LARCH WOOD (RAILWAY CUTTING) CEMETERY.
Andrew graduated with an MA in Divinity and he is mentioned in a local Hawick newspaper as the Reverend A Stewart.
The only connection with Hawick that I can find is that his brother, T.B. Stewart lived in the town. He is not listed on the Hawick Roll of Honour.
Name: STEWART
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Northumberland Fusiliers
Unit Text: 10th Bn.
Date of Death: 20/09/1917
Awards: M C
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. E. 6.
Cemetery: LARCH WOOD (RAILWAY CUTTING) CEMETERY _________________ Help Save Our Red Squirrels
4 wheels move the body, 2 wheels move the soul! |
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Regulus1

Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 90
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Is there any additional information on this officer that someone knows of ? |
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spoons

Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 4144 Location: St John's Town of Dalry
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Regulus1 wrote: | | Is there any additional information on this officer that someone knows of ? |
There is quite a bit of info about him on the posting for his individual memorial, here http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=2146 |
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Regulus1

Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 90
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Thank you very much for that ! It is wonderfull information on this man, as I would like to have him remembered in the WW I military cemeteries of West-Flanders book we're preparing for 2008. |
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spoons

Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 4144 Location: St John's Town of Dalry
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Regulus1 wrote: | | Thank you very much for that ! It is wonderfull information on this man, as I would like to have him remembered in the WW I military cemeteries of West-Flanders book we're preparing for 2008. |
I am sure that the church in Isle of Whithorn would be very interested to know that he is to be remembered in this way.
\Paul |
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ADP
Joined: 13 Jun 2008 Posts: 452 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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From The Scotsman 19 April 1920
WAR MEMORIALS
ISLE OF WHITHORN.— One of the first of the war memorials to be erected in Wigtownshire to the fallen soldiers and sailors has been unveiled at the Isle of Whithorn. The ceremony was performed by the Right Hon. Sir H. E. Maxwell of Monreith, Lord Lieutenant of the county. The memorial takes the form of a Celtic Cross of Dalbeattie Granite.
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DelBoy

Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 3900 Location: Arbroath, Angus, Scotland
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:59 am Post subject: |
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From the Letters page of the Galloway Gazette
THE article about the life of George Dickie reminded me, as the last of the Whithorn-born wartime servicemen, about the deaths of nine Whithorn boys in the Second World War.
Six of them were at school with me. Sandy Cain worked in our shop before he was called up for army service. Sandy was wounded early in the war and, when he recovered, was sent to fight against Rommel in the North Africa campaign.
Sandy was killed in action.
Robert Flannighan served on a destroyer on patrol in the North Sea. When on leave he called on a friend who said they would see him again on his next leave.
Robert said: “I have a fear I might not be back – things are very bad out there.” Robert’s words came true: he never returned from his last patrol and was lost at sea. That was the fate of two boys I knew well. Similar stories could apply to the other seven boys who gave their lives.
I would like to see a plaque to their memory in a prominent place in Whithorn.
The war memorial is filled to the top with names. I don’t think all of our boys’ names are on it, as there would not be enough space.
These heroes should never be forgotten. They were young men who gave their lives for their country and a Christian way of life.
David Doughty,
31 George Street, Whithorn.
Derek. |
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