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James Cameron & Archibald James Graham**Now Commemorated
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:04 pm    Post subject: James Cameron & Archibald James Graham**Now Commemorated Reply with quote

Neither of these men are 'officially' commemorated but after some legwork lots of digging (not literally) and not mentioning much hair pulling, they have both been forwarded to IFTC this week with all the necessary documentation.

They were both buried in Gartmore Churchyard.

Pte. James Cameron, KOSB, No. 8846 (died 1917) lies in Row 5, Lair 16.

Pte. Archibald James Graham, Gordons, No. S/10224 (died 1918) lies in Row 5, Lair 3.

Gartmore Churchyard is tiny (somewhere between 400-450 Lairs) and I find it incredible to find 2 confirmed 'non-comms' there.

The Churchyard can be seen here:
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=9273&highlight=gartmore

Archie and James are in the 1st row to the left of the path just inside the gate (the western half).

Anne


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good work Anne.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have you and Ken Morrison to thank for a lot of help Mark!

Two (or three) heads are always better than one.

Anne Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps it is not so incredible that there are two non-comms in one small graveyard. If both these men died at home perhaps the local registrar didn't know he had to inform the War Office/ Imperial War Graves Commission of the deaths?

Perhaps there are other cemeteries out there where one non-comm has been identified to date but there are actually more still to find in the same location because of the working practices of the local registrar?

Great work though everyone, it's good to see these men being identified.

Kind regards

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't able to amend the title to **Now Commemorated**.

I'm absolutely delighted to say both these men are now 'In From the Cold' and have been added to the UK Book of Remembrance.

Anne Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's great Anne! Well done to all involved.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant, an extremely quick turnaround on these men.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great stuff Anne - and one is a Borderer!

CAMERON, JAMES.
Rank:Private
Service No:8846
Date of Death:13/06/1917
Age:34
Regiment/Service:King's Own Scottish Borderers 2nd Bn.
Panel Reference:
Memorial:UNITED KINGDOM BOOK OF REMEMBRANCE
Additional Information:Son of the late John and Annie Cameron.


GRAHAM, ARCHIBALD JAMES
Rank:Private
Service No:S/10224
Date of Death:16/06/1918
Age:24
Regiment/Service:Gordon Highlanders 1st Bn.
Panel Reference:
Memorial:UNITED KINGDOM BOOK OF REMEMBRANCE
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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2016 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CWGC have now got to the stage of appealing for relatives.
http://www.cwgc.org/media/516437/nok_may_2016.pdf
75452405
8846
CAMERON
JAMES
13/06/1917
King’s Own Scottish Borderers
Private
GARTMORE PARISH CHURCHYARD
Row 5 Lair 18

75452406
S/10224
GRAHAM
ARCHIBALD JAMES
16/06/1918
Gordon Highlanders
Private
GARTMORE PARISH CHURCHYARD
Row 5 Lair 3

and I've just realised that the schedule does not have a cemetery number since this burial ground was not known to have war dead.

So a triple "well done" for Anne Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Made a point of visiting Gartmore Churchyard on Tuesday 14th March 2017 to see if any stones or plaques had been erected. Unfortunately, nothing yet and no CWGC sign on the gates.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.cwgc.org/news-events/news/2017/6/cwgc-commemorates-two-soldiers-a-century-after-death.aspx

27 June 2017
"A small ceremony will take place at Gartmore Church Yard, Stirling, today after the CWGC erected granite headstones for two men who died within a year of each other in the First World War and will now be the first war dead at the cemetery.
Private James Cameron, King’s Own Scottish Borderers, 2nd Battalion, died on June 13, 1917, aged 34 and Archibald James Graham, Gordon Highlanders, 1st Battalion, died on June 16, 1918, aged 24."
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well spotted Ken - I didn't know anything about it and would have loved to be there.

I went back at the beginning of this month (June) just to check and nothing had been done.

I suppose I'll just have to content myself knowing that if it hadn't been for me being nosey, they maybe would never have been identified.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:10 pm    Post subject: Archibald James Graham on Scotland's People index Reply with quote

GRAHAM
ARCHIBALD JAMES
24
1918
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:18 pm    Post subject: Archibald James Graham on Scotland's People index - birth Reply with quote

GRAHAM
ARCHIBALD JAMES
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:24 pm    Post subject: Archibald J Graham Medal Card Reply with quote

His medal card is on Ancestry...
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