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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:21 pm    Post subject: Kilmacolm Reply with quote

Kilmacolm - Inverclyde District
The Kilmacolm war memorial is a grey granite celtic cross which stands on a small hill beside the Old Greenock Road.










WWI ROLL OF HONOUR:
Alexander Thomas K. S.H. Died 1915
Allison James W. Royal Engineers Died 1917
Black Duncan A. New Zealanders Died 1917
Black William C.F. Captain Died 1918
Brown J.G. Dewar S.H. Lieutenant Died 1918
Brown J.W. Royal Scots Captain Died 1917
Brown Samuel Canadians Sergeant Died 1917
Callan Michael Royal Garrison Artillery Died 1917
Campbell Angus Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders Lance Corporal Died 1917
Campbell Donald Cameron Highlanders Died 1917
Carson John S.H. Died 1917
Crawford Dunlop Royal Engineers Lieutenant Died 1917
Currie Andrew Royal Field Artillery Died 1915
Davidson Campbell Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders Died 1917
Davidson Henry S. Highland Light Infantry Lieutenant Died 1915
Dickson Andrew J. Royal Naval Reserve Lieutenant Died 1915
Donald William S. Canadians Died 1917
Duff Archibald S.H. Died 1915
Elliot John Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders Died 1917
Farquhar John Oswald Q.O.Y. Lieutenant Died 1918
Fergie Richard H. Canadians Died 1916
Fletcher Malcolm Highland Light Infantry Lieutenant Died 1917
Gillespie Dugald Highland Light Infantry Military Medal Died 1918
Graham J. Wilfred Highland Light Infantry Lieutenant Died 1914
Greenlees George D. R.H. Lieutenant Died 1917
Hendry William R.H. Died 1917
Holmes James Fyfe S.R. Lieutenant Died 1918
Keenan James Scots Guards Died 1915
Kelleher Christopher Royal Navy Died 1914
Laird Andrew C. R.H. Lieutenant Died 1916
Laird John Royal Field Artillery Died 1917
Laird William Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders Died 1918
Lang Arthur Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders Lieutenant Died 1916
Lochhead William Highland Light Infantry Died 1916
Lockie James Q.O.Y. Died 1918
MacDonald Donald Cameron Highlanders Died 1916
MacGregor Duncan Highland Light Infantry Died 1916
MacLay Ebenezer Scots Guards Captain Died 1918
MacLay James W. S.R. Lieutenant Died 1915
MacLay William S. S.R. Lieutenant Died 1915
MacNab Alec Royal Field Artillery Lieutenant Died 1918
MacPherson Alexander Cameron Highlanders Died 1917
MacRae Alexander G. C.S.R. Died 1918
Maitland W.E. S.H. Lieutenant Died 1914
Maxwell William Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders Lance Corporal Died 1915
McArthur John Royal Scots Fusiliers Died 1916
McKee John M. Cameron Highlanders Died 1917
McKee Robert Highland Light Infantry Died 1917
McKee William Highland Light Infantry Died 1917
McNeil Archibald Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders Lieutenant Died 1916
Miller Peter Beaton Highland Light Infantry Died 1918
Mowat John M. Royal Air Force Lieutenant Died 1917
Naismith Walter Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders Died 1917
Neville William S. Royal Garrison Artillery Lieutenant Died 1916
Nisbet Thomas Highland Light Infantry Lance Corporal Died 1918
Pattison Robert M. S.R. Lieutenant Died 1915
Quin Patrick R.H. Sergeant Died 1915
Ramsay Gilbert Highland Light Infantry Died 1915
Ritchie Thomas Royal Garrison Artillery Sergeant Died 1918
Robb George Royal Navy Died 1918
Rowan J.L. Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders Lieutenant Died 1915
Sands James S.H. Died 1916
Scott Charles G. Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders Lieutenant Died 1916
Sheridan Alexander Lindsay Highland Light Infantry Died 1918
Sommerville Charles S.H. Died 1918
Stewart Thomas Gordon Highlanders Died 1918
Stoddart Robert J. Canadians Died 1918
Strachan Andrew King's Own Scottish Borderers Died 1915
Stuart James Gibb Highland Light Infantry Died 1916
Tuckwell John H.G. Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders Lieutenant Died 1918
Turner William Royal Naval Division Died 1915
Weir Herbert J. Ayrshire Yeomanry Lieutenant Died 1917
White William Gordon Highlanders Died 1917
Whitla Thomas Royal Garrison Artillery Corporal Died 1918
Wilson Arthur Royal Field Artillery Died 1918
Woodrow Alexander H. Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders Died 1916
Young Alexander Merchant Navy? Seaman Died 1918


WWII ROLL OF HONOUR:
BAILLIE ALASTAIR S.H. ROYAL AIR FORCE FLIGHT LIEUTENANT 1944
BANKS JOHN J. MERCHANT NAVY THIRD OFFICER 1944
BOW WILLIAM D.S. ROYAL AIR FORCE FLYING OFFICER 1940 - 1942
CAMPBELL DOUGLAS G. R.A.(A/T) FIRST LIEUTENANT 1945
CAMPBELL JOHN CAMERON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE 1945
CAREY JOHN ARMY CYCLIST CORPS PRIVATE 1945
CLARK WILLIAM ROYAL AIR FORCE SERGEANT NAVIGATOR 1944
COMBES CYRIL D. ROYAL NAVY LEADING WIRM. 1940 - 1942
CREICHTON ROBERT ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS SERGEANT 1945
DOCHERTY WILLIAM ROYAL ARMY SERVICE CORPS DRIVER 1945
FRASER ERNEST J. CAMERONIANS LANCE CORPORAL 1944
GRAY HAMILTON L.V. ROYAL ENGINEERS SAPPER 1940 - 1942
HAIR DAVID M. ROYAL AIR FORCE LEADING AIRCRAFTMAN 1944
MACARTHUR ALEXANDER EAST AFRICAN ARTILLERY GUNNER 1944
MCGINTY JOHN ROYAL NAVY STOKER 1940 - 1942
MCGONAGLE PATRICK CAMERONIANS RIFLEMAN 1940 - 1942
MCGREGOR GREGOR S. ROYAL AIR FORCE SERGEANT NAVIGATOR 1943
MCHENRY JOHN AIRBORNE REGIMENT SERGEANT 1944
MCKEE JOHN MERCHANT NAVY FIRST RAD. OFFICER 1940 - 1942
MCLACHLAN ALEXANDER H. CAMERON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE 1940 - 1942
MONTGOMERY GEORGE S. ROYAL ENGINEERS SAPPER 1943
NICHOLSON JOHN MERCHANT NAVY CHIEF STEWARD 1944
O'DONNELL JOHN PIONEER CORPS PRIVATE 1945
STARK DAVID ROYAL CORPS OF SIGNALS DRIVER 1940 - 1942
STRANG ROBERT ROYAL ARTILLERY LIEUTENANT MILITARY CROSS 1940 - 1942
YOUNG ARCHIBALD M. ROYAL ARTILLERY GUNNER 1940 - 1942
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Kilmacolm WM Inscription Reply with quote

This is what I submitted to UKNIWM

Kilmacolm War Memorial Inscription
Recorded by Alexander C Maclennan, May 2007


Main block with dedication inscription and names from WW1. Names listed principally by year of death but no clear order in terms of surname or rank. Forename, middle initial, surname, decoration, rank and regiment/ service given. Names on all 4 faces of block.

Panel 1

LET SUCCEEDING GENERATIONS READ
WITH REVERENCE THE HONOURED NAMES
OF KILMACOLM’S BRAVE SONS WHO
FELL IN THE GREAT WAR. 1914 ~ 1919
1914
I. WILFRED GRAHAM LIEUT.H.L.I.
W.E. MAITLAND LIEUT.S.H.
CHRISTOPHER KELLEHER R.N.
1915
ARCHIBALD DUFF S.H.
HENRY S. DAVIDSON LIEUT. H.L.I.
JAMES W. MACLAY LIEUT. S.R.
WILLIAM S. MACLAY LIEUT. S.R.
ROBERT M. PATTISON LIEUT. S.R.
ANDREW CURRIE R.F.A.
THOMAS K. ALEXANDER S.H.
WILLIAM TURNER R.N.D.
WILLIAM MAXWELL LIEUT.A&S.H.
J.L. ROWAN LIEUT.A&S.H.
AND. J. DICKSON LIEUT.R.N.R.


Panel 2

ANDREW STRACHAN K.O.S.B.
PATRICK QUIN SERG.R.H.
JAMES KEENAN S.G.
GILBERT RAMSAY H.L.I.
1916
ARCH. McNEIL LIEUT.A&S.H.
JOHN McARTHUR R.S.F.
JAMES SANDS S.H.
WILLIAM LOCHHEAD H.L.I.
JAMES GIBB STUART H.L.I.
DUNCAN MACGREGOR H.L.I.
ARTHUR LANG LIEUT.A&S.H.
DONALD MACDONALD C.H.
RICHARD H FERGIE CAN.
ALEX. H. WOODROW A&S.H.
CHARLES G. SCOTT LIEUT.A&S.H.
WILLIAM S. NEVILLE LIEUT.R.G.A.
ANDREW C. LAIRD LIEUT.R.H.
1917
JOHN M.MOWAT LIEUT.R.A.F.
WILLIAM HENDRY R.H.
J.W. BROWN CAPT.R.S.
JOHN ELLIOT A&S.H.


Panel 3

1917
WILLIAM S. DONALD CAN.
WALTER NAISMITH A&S.H.
DONALD CAMPBELL C.H.
ANGUS CAMPBELL L.CPL.A&S.H.
JOHN M. McKEE C.H.
JOHN CARSON S.H.
MICHAEL CALLAN R.G.A.
JOHN LAIRD R.F.A.
WILLIAM WHITE G.H.
SAMUEL BROWN SERG.CAN.
MALCOLM FLETCHER LIEUT.H.L.I.
CAMPBELL DAVIDSON A&S.H.
DUNCAN A. BLACK N.Z.
HERBERT J. WEIR LIEUT.A.Y.
JAMES W. ALLISON R.E.
ROBERT McKEE H.L.I.
WILLIAM McKEE H.L.I.
GEORGE W. GREENLEES LIEUT.R.H.
DUNLOP CRAWFORD LIEUT.R.E.
ALEX. MACPHERSON C.H.


Panel 4

1918
JAMES FYFE HOLMES LIEUT.S.R.
THOMAS WHITLA CPL. R.G.A.
CHARLES SOMMERVILLE S.H.
JOHN H.G. TUCKWELL LIEUT.A&S.H.
JOHN OSWALD FARQUHAR LIEUT.Q.O.Y.
EBENEZER MACLAY CAPT.S.G.
J.G. DEWAR BROWN LIEUT.S.H.
REV. WILLIAM BLACK CAPT.C.F.
WILLIAM LAIRD A&S.H.
THOMAS STEWART G.H.
DUGALD GILLESPIE M.M. H.L.I.
ALEX. G. MACRAE C.S.R.
THOMAS RITCHIE SERGT.R.G.A.
GEORGE ROBB R.N.
ALEXANDER YOUNG SEAMAN
ALEX. LINDSAY SHERIDAN H.L.I.
PETER BEATON MILLER H.L.I.
ALEC MACNAB LIEUT.R.F.A.
ROBERT J. STODDART CAN.
JAMES LOCKIE Q.O.Y.
ARTHUR WILSON R.F.A.
THOMS NISBET L.CPL.H.L.I.


Subsidiary angled stone with dedication and list of names from WW2. Names listed principally by year of death and alphabetically by surname for each year. Forename, middle initial, surname, decoration, rank and regiment/ service given. Names in two columns under dedication.

ALSO HONOUR THE MEMORY OF
THEIR BROTHERS OF A NEW GENERATION
WHO MADE THE SUPREME SACRIFICE IN THE SECOND WORLD WAR
1939 – 1945

First Column
1940 - 1942
CYRIL D. COOMBS L/WIRN. R.N.
HAMILTON L.V. GRAY SAPR. R.E.
ARCHIBALD M. YOUNG GUNR. R.A.
PATRICK McGONAGLE RFN. CAM. (S.R.)
JOHN MCKEE 1ST RAD/OFR.M.N.
ROBERT STRANG. M.C. LT. R.A.
WILLIAM D.S. BOW FLYG.OFR. R.A.F.
JOHN McGINTY STOKER R.N.
ALEXANDER H. McLACHLAN PTE. Q.O.C.H.
DAVID STARK DVR R.C. OF S.
1943
GREGOR S. McGREGOR SGT. NAVR. R.A.F.
GEORGE S. MONTGOMERY SAPR R.E.


Second Column
1944
ALASTAIR S.H. BAILLIE FLT. LT. R.A.F.
JOHN J. BANKS 3RD OFF. M.N.
WILLIAM CLARK SGT. NAVR. R.A.F.
ERNEST J. FRASER L/CPL CAM. (S.R.)
DAVID M. HAIR L.A.C. R.A.F.
ALEXANDER MACARTHUR GNR. EAST AFA.
JOHN McHENRY SGT. AIRBORN
JOHN NICHOLSON CHF. STD. M.N.
1945
DOUGLAS G. CAMPBELL 1ST LT. R.A.(A/T)
JOHN CAMPBELL PTE Q.O.C.H.
JOHN CAREY PTE. A.C.C.
ROBERT CREIGHTON SGT. R.A.M.C.
JOHN O’DONNELL PTE. PIOR. C.
WILLIAM DOCHERTY DVR R.A.S.C.


Inscription of name of architect and sculptor on base

J.A. LAIRD, ARCHT.
W. VICKERS, SC.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As well as the stone monument just outside the village, there is a large wooden memorial structure immediately inside Kilcacolm community centre (formerly the village institute) in the heart of the village at junction of Bridge of Weir Road and Lochwinnoch Road.

On entering the building, the memorial is on the wall to your left. It rises over 8 feet from ground level and is some 7 feet wide. In the centre are listed the surnames and initials of all the fallen of the village for the First World War. Above the names is the phrase “Pro Patria”, and then below “In Remembrance of Kilmacolm’s Brave Sons 1914-1918” At the very bottom is the inscription:

“They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.”

The fallen of the Second World War have been added in matching panels on either side.

A small plaque in the lower right corner explains that the memorial was “Designed, Executed and Gifted by George MacKintosh 7th Nov. 1930”





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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graeme,

Are the names the same on this memorial as on the stone monument?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick count of the names gives the same total of names from what I can see but they are in a different order. Only names and no ranks or dates.

I know from another place I've seen wooden plaques with the same names as the memorial in a Community Centre, they were from the British Legion.

The community centre / Library looks older than the 1930s. Was it converted as an ex-serviceman's club in 1930 perhaps?

Probabaly worth a look in the local papers of the time.

On another subject there are a lot of Lieutenants on that memorial. Is there any reason why Kilmacolm would have produced so many junior officers?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is one name (J MacInness) which appears under the WW1 dead in the wooden list but not the stone one. All other names match between the two.

The building that is currently the Community Centre was originally a hotel. But the village held a successful vote in the 1920s to prohibit the sale of alcohol throughout the village. This likely drove the hotel out of business, and the hotel became the village institute (a community run place of recreation and improvement). In fact, there are plans to re-site the community centre and library, as the building is considered unsound. I will investigate to ensure that proper plans for the re-siting of the war memorial are integral to this.

There are a large fraction of officers among the dead. Kilmacolm has always been a particularly wealthy village, and I suspect that family and school connections would have ensured that an unusually high fraction of those serving did so as officers.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the 1917 deaths. Known as Dunlop rather than David.

CRAWFORD, DANIEL DAVID DUNLOP
Initials: D D D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers
Secondary Regiment: Sappers and Miners, Indian States Forces
Secondary Unit Text: attd. 25th Railway Coy.
Date of Death: 10/12/1917
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 5. L. 14.
Cemetery: DAR ES SALAAM WAR CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:39 am    Post subject: 2nd Lt. William Ebenezer Maitland Reply with quote

jamiemcginlay wrote:
WWI ROLL OF HONOUR:
Maitland W.E. S.H. Lieutenant Died 1914


(Glasgow Herald 26th of December 1914)
"Died from wounds received in France or Belgium, on 24th December, William Ebenezer (Ted) Maitland, M.B. Ch.B., second lieutenant Seaforth Highlanders, son of George Maitland, Duncrag, Kilmacolm."

Name: MAITLAND, WILLIAM EBENEZER
Initials: W E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders
Unit Text: 3rd Bn.
Secondary Regiment: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Secondary Unit Text: attd. 2nd Bn.
Age: 25
Date of Death: 24/12/1914
Additional information: Son of George and Jane Paton Maclay Maitland, of Duncrag, Kilmacolm, Renfrewshire. M.B., Ch.B., Glasgow University. Native of Glasgow.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: A. 26.
Cemetery: LILLERS COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:37 pm    Post subject: Pte. Archibald Duff Reply with quote

WW1
1915
Archibald Duff, S.H.

(Glasgow Herald 3rd April 1915)
"News was received from the War Office yesterday by Mr Archibald Duff, farmer, Dykefoot, Kilmacolm, that his son, Private Archie Duff, 3rd Seaforth Highlanders, had died of wounds in France. Previous to the war Private Duff was an apprentice engineer in Greenock. He was 19 years of age. This makes the fourth death from the parish of Kilmacolm since the commencement of the war."

CWGC
DUFF, ARCHIBALD
Rank: Private
Service No: S/2409
Date of Death: 30/03/1915
Age: 18
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders 1st Bn.
Grave Reference: III. D. 68.
Cemetery: BOULOGNE EASTERN CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of Archibald and Margaret Duff, of Mathemock, Kilmacolm, Renfrewshire.

SNWM
Surname: DUFF
Firstname: Archibald
Service Number: S/2409
Date Death: 30/03/1915
Place of birth: Kilmacolm Greenock
Other: 1st Bn.
SNWM roll: THE SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:50 am    Post subject: Unveiling Report Reply with quote

It is of Kemnay granite, designed by James Austin Laird and built by William Vickers of Glasgow. The land it is sited upon was given by Sir Joseph P. Maclay Bart.

The unveiling report gives 77 names on the memorial, so no later additions.



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:06 am    Post subject: Pte. Thomas Kitchen Alexander Reply with quote

WW1
1915
Thomas K. Alexander, S.H.

(Glasgow Herald 18th June 1915)
"Mr John Anderson, 73 Love Street, Paisley, has received a telegram from the officer in command on No.16 General Hospital, France, informing him that his brother, Private Thomas Alexander, 1st Seaforth Highlanders, had died from wounds. Private Alexander was 25 years of age, and joined the colours in August, going to France in March. He worked as a baker in Kilmacolm."

CWGC
ALEXANDER, T K
Rank: Private
Service No: S/5283
Date of Death: 16/06/1915
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders 1st Bn.
Grave Reference: Plot 1. Row F. Grave 5.
Cemetery: LE TREPORT MILITARY CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: ALEXANDER
Forename: Thomas Kitchen
Rank: Pte
Service number: S/5283
Place of birth: Paisley
Date of death: 16 June 1915
Theatre of death: F&F
SNWM roll: THE SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
Other detail: 1st Bn.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Unveiling Report Reply with quote

DelBoy wrote:
It is of Kemnay granite, designed by James Austin Laird and built by William Vickers of Glasgow. The land it is sited upon was given by Sir Jospeh P. Maclay Bart.


Two of Maclay's sons were killed in the First World War. In their memory, he and his wife Martha gifted to the University a building in Park Terrace for use as a student hall of residence, Maclay Hall.
http://www.universitystory.gla.ac.uk/biography/?id=WH0126&type=P

MACLAY, WILLIAM STRANG.
Rank:Second Lieutenant
Date of Death:25/06/1915
Regiment/Service:Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
8th Bn.
Panel ReferencePanel 92 to 97.
MemorialHELLES MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of the Rt. Hon. Sir Joseph Paton Maclay, 1st Bart. (now 1st Baron Maclay) and Lady Maclay, of Glasgow. His brother Ebenezer Maclay also fell.

MACLAY, EBENEZER.
Rank:Lieutenant
Date of Death:11/04/1918
Age:27
Regiment/Service:Scots Guards
1st Bn.
Grave ReferenceVI. A. 33.
CemeteryDOULLENS COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION NO.1
Additional Information:
Son of Sir Joseph Paton Maclay, Bart., and Lady Maclay, of Kilmacolm, Renfrewshire. B.A. of Cambridge. Native of Glasgow. His brother William Strang Maclay also fell.

I presume that the other Maclay listed on the memorial was a relative (cousin ?)
MACLAY, JAMES WEBSTER.
Rank:Second Lieutenant
Date of Death:28/06/1915
Age:18
Regiment/Service:Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
1st/7th Bn.
Grave ReferenceSp. Mem. C. 55.
CemeteryTWELVE TREE COPSE CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of William Paton Maclay and Mary Jane Fraser Webster Maclay, of Brantwoode, Helensburgh, Dumbartonshire. Of Kilmacolm, Renfrewshire.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:31 am    Post subject: Quinn Reply with quote

An article in the 21st June Glasgow Herald mentions that a Sgt. P. Quinn of the Black Watch has been missing for two weeks, a postman in Kilmacolm. This seems to tally with the name on the memorial.

However I can find only two P. Quinn's of the Black Watch, both privates, and neither with a connection to the area.

3/3339 KIA 10/02/1915
&
S/6595 KIA 09/05/1915

who are both in the Dundee RoH.

Any ideas?
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