The Scottish War Memorials Project

Adam Brown

Corstorphine War Memorial
Location: In front of Corstorphine Parish Church, Kirk Loan
OS Ref: NT 200 727

I'm afraid I don't have a very good photo of the Great War names on the front of the memorial but I do have ones of the sides.

Northern Ireland name. Sgt Stuart Reid, REME

dhubthaigh · Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject:

What caught my eye here was Chas F and Louis F Hoffman.
From the 1901 census, as I suspected, their father was a German national (not naturalised), their mother was Barbara Fraser.

Surname HOFFMAN
Firstname Charles Fraser
Service Number G/11500
Date Death 25/07/1916
Decoration
Place of birth Edinburgh
Other 11th Bn.
SNWM roll SCOTTISH CASUALTIES EXTRACTED FROM ENGLISH REGIMENTS
Rank Pte
Theatre of death F.& F.

Name: HOFFMANN
Initials: C F
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Queen's Own (Royal West Kent Regiment)
Unit Text: 11th Bn.
Age: 27
Date of Death: 25/07/1916
Service No: G/11500
Additional information: Son of Charles and Barbara Hoffmann, of 9, Victor Park Terrace, Corstorphine, Edinburgh.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. F. 105.
Cemetery: BAILLEUL COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION (NORD)

Charles was actually named Karl.

I struggled with Louis though - he was actually named Ludwig and he served as;
Surname FRASER
Firstname Louis
Service Number 97128
Date Death 15/11/1918
Decoration
Place of birth Edinburgh
Other
SNWM roll ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS
Rank Pte
Theatre of death India.

Name: FRASER, LOUIS
Initials: L
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Army Medical Corps
Age: 27
Date of Death: 15/11/1918
Service No: 97128
Additional information: Husband of Annie J. Fraser, of 23, Derwent St., Sunderland, Tyne and Wear.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Face 11.
Memorial: KIRKEE 1914-1918 MEMORIAL

Here, the marriage index entries confirm the name change;
Marriages Dec 1915
Fraser Louis Watson Sunderland 10a 1533
Hoffmann Louis Watson Sunderland 10a 1533
Watson Annie J Fraser Sunderland 10a 1533
Watson Annie J Hoffman Sunderland 10a 1533

Obviously trying to disguise their German heritage, Louis particularly so.

dhubthaigh · Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject:

Adam,

I am trying to make out the name between Geo. Shade and Stanley Smith.
Is it John Schiclls?

dhubthaigh · Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject:

Adam Brown · Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:48 pm Post subject:

Mark

Yes you're right Shiells. The original isn't much clearer but the E is the same as the surname Robertson just above it.

What fantastic research work tracking down the Hoffman brothers. Who would have thought that Louis Fraser was actually Ludwig Hoffman!

Regards

Adam

Adam Brown · Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:36 pm Post subject:

I'm not sure if this cross hasn't had a bit of TLC

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