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St Andrew's Place Church, Leith WW1

 
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 8:14 pm    Post subject: St Andrew's Place Church, Leith WW1 Reply with quote

First World War Memorial from St Andrew's Place Church, relocated to Leith St Andrew's following their union in 1973.



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be very surprised if this church war memorial at the other end of the city in the former Corstorphine UF Church wasn't by the same firm. They aren't exactly the same but there are similarities.

http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=6578

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two men named here (GIBSON and SCOTT) as A.T.S.
I don't see them on SNWM/CWGC - what's ATS in WW1?
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Leith Roll of Honour identifies both men. Both were First Engineers on different merchant ships but they were lost at sea within three days of each other.

John Y Scott is this man.

http://issuu.com/lhsa/docs/lroh_4

SCOTT, JOHN
Rank: First Engineer
Date of Death: 29/12/1917
Age: 59
Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine, "Ennismore" (Leith)
Memorial: TOWER HILL MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of the late Alexander Scott and Ann Ritchie Scott; husband of Margaret Scott (nee Galloway) of 309, Easter Rd., Leith. Born at Panmure, Forfarshire.

It gives his middle name as Young and states he drowned when his ship was torpedoed.

Allan C Gibson is this man

http://issuu.com/lhsa/docs/lroh_3

GIBSON, ALAN
Rank: First Engineer
Date of Death: 26/12/1917
Age: 41
Regiment/Service:Mercantile Marine S.S. "Warsaw" (Leith)
Memorial: TOWER HILL MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Husband of Euphemia Black Gibson, of 6, Duke St., Edinburgh. Born at Leith.

It still doesn't answer the question what does ATS stand for

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are no other men listed as Mercantile Marine on this memorial. One ship sunk in December 1917 was a cargo / transport steamship and the other was a collier. I can't find anything else online linking WW1 merchant seamen to the abbreviation ATS. I am stumped.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:31 am    Post subject: James Wilson - Gordons Reply with quote

James Wilson Private 10652 1st Bn. Gordon Highlanders b St.Giles,M'lothian e Edinburgh Age 18 Killed in Action Seine-et-Marne, France 26/08/1914 La Ferte-Sous-Jouarre Memorial M. R. 15
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