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Merseman



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:59 pm    Post subject: Unknown Lauder Roll Reply with quote

On the end wall of the east wing of Lauder Parish Church but not of either of the churches operating in Lauder at the time... both of which have their own rolls elsewhere in the building, totalling 199 between them - 144 from the Established church and 55 from the United Free church.

It could be a community-wide roll but it only has 116 names.
(Plus 4 "Scouts on Coast Defence").

Also I don't think it has been here for more than a couple of decades... Dr Binnie's book on Berwickshire churches, published in 1995, details in very accurate terms all the other items in the church but doesn't mention this.








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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a shame it isn't identified. At least it states it is from Lauder.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately the photos turned-out poorer than I had hoped... the church hasn't very good light inside due to its cruciform shape with galleries over all 4 arms... and I hadn't time to take dictaphone recordings of the names but I noted that the Colonel and Major who top the list also top the Lauder CofS roll.

I will do some digging and ask the Session Clerk... other civic buildings in Lauder were its Tolbooth (by church in my photo), and Public Hall. Though Peace is blank the 'ranks' are alphabetical indicating it wasn't compiled as-they-went-along.

Lauder was the only royal burgh in Berwickshire but it got disenfranchised electorally in 1885.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:05 pm    Post subject: Unknown Lauder Roll Reply with quote

I would expect the Roll of Honour will have been compiled after November 1914 but prior to August 1921. It may well have nothing to do with a kirk, althought it was usual.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kenny

From the original photographs can you make out the small text at the bottom? On the left hand side it looks like the name of the printers - it would be great if that could be made out.

In the middle of the bottom it looks like it names what the roll of honour is for. Does it say "The school roll of honour"?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm afraid I can't make-out the name of the printers, off my original photo.

In the middle reads "The Empire Roll of Honour", which doesn't really help.

I have been in touch with the Session Clerk, but he's no ideas. He put me in touch with an elder who was in the forces and takes an interest in local memorial matters, he suggests it came from Lauder West UF when it shut in 1954. However I'm sceptical of this for the reasons outlined above, that there is already a Lauder West UF Roll (with fewer names than this!) - and that all the other items were noted by Dr Binnie in early 1990s, except for this, which suggests it arrived subsequently.

Ultimately we may never know, I suppose.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merseman wrote:
Ultimately we may never know, I suppose.


I hope not Kenny. Has any public building in Lauder been closed or refurbished in the last twenty years? It may have come from there if it has only been in the church since then.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have a new school (phoned them - weren't aware of any memorials) and a new health centre. As I mentioned there's also the Public Hall which is owned by Scottish Borders Council (spoke to its caretaker - he was not aware of any memorials) and the Tolbooth, but I'm unsure who owns it or what it is actually used for nowadays.

I'm not aware of any building which has closed. They still have functioning bowling club, Masonic Lodge, etc.

If I exhaust all avenues drawing complete blanks I may put a letter in the Border Telegraph, and write to the Community Council.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Local papers have been useful in other cases. In fact if it was an article rather than a letter it might get a btter response. In Paisley an article appealing for information about the damaged Doulton war memorial resulted in an older photograph being sent in.

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