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Hastingleigh



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was my thought too, I checked the Straights Times archive (which has several SE Asian papers in the archive - and they didn't carry news of the wedding - which was a little unusual, as they tended to cover most of the social gossip for Singapore and Malaya (as it then was).
Perhaps neither bride nor groom were long time ex-pat residents and wouldn't make the social news sections of the papers.

The fall of Penang happened a few months after the wedding. Clearly they both got out, otherwise the obit notice would probably have indicated that he was missing or POW held by the Japanese.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:16 pm    Post subject: Possible identification of the communion table Reply with quote



With the side panels subsequently updated with WW2 casualties replacing some of the inscriptions. Just a thought.

If you cannot zoom in - the key details are :-
Aberdeen Journal 13 Oct 1919

A beautiful war memorial Communion table was dedicated at the forenoon service yesterday in Skene Street Congregational Church, Aberdeen...

... Mr Dick explained that the table was the anonymous gift of two friends of the church. It had been executed to the design of Mr William Kelly LLD ARSA by Messrs J. and A. Ogilvie, Union Street and the artistic work had been done by Mr Aitken.

[Ogilvies did several communion tables in the late 19th and early 20th centuries]

Around the top were carved the words "To the Glory of God and in very grateful memory of the young men of this church who laid down their lives for truth and freedom in the great was 1914-1919" .
The front contained the inscription in gilt lettering on a purple scroll "This do in remembrance of me" With this inscription was another "Their name liveth forever more".
The right side, Mr Dick said had a similar wreath with the inscription "Their bodies rest in peace". The dark staining of the table harmonised well with the furnishings of the church, giving the table great distinction. The artistic work showed a marvellous mingling of light and colour and the colour seemed to live. Mr. Townend of the Aberdeen Art Gallery had seen the table, and had described it as one the most beautiful church ornaments he had seen recently. ...

So the next question is - does that fit closely enough with the above table now in St Nicholas, or is there still a war memorial communion table at Skeen St Church which better matches this description?

The only others I could find mentioned were of a very different description, one at New Deer Church, and one at St Fitticks, Aberdeen, neither of which comes close to matching the above photos.[/img]


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: WW2 James Barrie Reply with quote

Hastingleigh wrote:
Aberdeen Weekly Journal 21 June 1945
Barrie - Pte James Barrie 2nd Cameron Highlanders, reported missing, Libya June 15 (or near) 1941, presumed to have died of wounds, the dearly beloved only son of Mrs Helen Barrie 49 George Street, Aberdeen and the late Trooper Alexander Barrie, killed in action April 11 1917.

CWGC:
BARRIE, JAMES
Rank: Private
Service No: 2937761
Date of Death: 15/06/1941
Age: 28
Regiment/Service: Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders 2nd Bn.
Panel Reference: Column 71.
Memorial: ALAMEIN MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of Alexander and Helen Barrie, of Aberdeen.


and the father
BARRIE, ALEXANDER.
Rank:Private
Service No:5025
Date of Death:11/04/1917
Age:35
Regiment/Service:17th Lancers (Duke of Cambridge's Own)
Panel Reference:Bay 1.
Memorial:ARRAS MEMORIAL
Additional Information:Son of James and Sarah Barrie, of 49, George St., Aberdeen; husband of Helen Anderson Barrie, of 49, George St., Aberdeen.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:43 pm    Post subject: WW2 Norman William Munro MacKenzie Reply with quote

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MacKENZIE, NORMAN WILLIAM MUNRO
Rank: Flight Sergeant
Service No: 1672269
Date of Death: 06/10/1945
Age: 23
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 233 Sqdn.
Panel Reference: Column 450.
Memorial: SINGAPORE MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of Mr. and Mrs. Donald MacKenzie, of Aberdeen.

Aberdeen Weekly Journal 18 Oct 1945
Flight Sergeant (Pilot) Norman William Munro MacKenzie lost his life in air operations in Burma on Oct 6 aged 23, the dearly loved elder son of Mr and Mrs Donald MacKenzie, 7 Ashgrove Rd, Aberdeen
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:51 pm    Post subject: WW2 Austin Black Noble Reply with quote

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NOBLE, AUSTIN BLACK
Rank: Leading Aircraftman
Service No: 573704
Date of Death: 07/12/1942
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force
Grave Reference: Brit. Sec. R. A. 8.
Cemetery: YOKOHAMA WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of William Alexander Leslie and Catherine Black Noble, of Aberdeen

Aberdeen Weekly Journal 27 May 1943
LA/C Austin Black Noble (19) RAF who has been missing for the past sixteen months is reported a prisoner of war in Japanese hands. He is a son of Mr and Mrs W. Noble, 13 Roslin Street, Aberdeen.

Aberdeen Journal 02 Sep 1943
L.A.C Austin Black Noble twenty year old son of Mr and Mrs W. Noble, 13 Roslin Street, Aberden has died in a Japanese prisoner camp.

He was originally in Yokohama Cemetery No.1 the day he died and was later reburied 26 Sep 1946.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:03 pm    Post subject: WW2 Alexander Rae Reply with quote

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RAE, ALEXANDER
Rank: Civilian
Date of Death: 06/05/1941
Age: 27
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: GREENOCK, BURGH OF, SCOTLAND [that is questionable data]
Additional Information:
of 29 East Crawford Street. Son of Alexander Rae, of 24 Esslemont Avenue, Aberdeen. Injured at 29 East Crawford Street; died same day at Royal Infirmary.

Aberdeen Journal 12 May 1941
RAE - Suddenly as the result of enemy action, Alexander Rae engineer, aged 27 years (late of John Lewis and Sons), beloved eldest son of Mr and Mrs A. Rae, 24 Esslemont Avenue, Sadly missed. Funeral from the house on Tuesday 13th inst, at 2.30pm to Allenvale Cemetery. Friends please accept this (the only) intimation and invitation.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:28 pm    Post subject: WW2 Alistair Watson Reply with quote

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WATSON, ALISTAIR
Rank: Civilian
Date of Death: 20/04/1941
Age: 3
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: ABERDEEN CITY, SCOTLAND
Additional Information:
Son of Albert and Margaret Watson, of 38 Urquhart Road. Died at Gallowhill Gardens, Golf Road.

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21 Apr 1941 Aberdeen Journal

BOMB KILLS BOY: STREETS GUNNED
Two North east Scotland towns were bombed and machine-gunned by enemy aircraft yesterday afternoon. In one of the towns a young boy Alistair Watson aged three and a half was killed and several civilians were injured.
Children playing in the streets had narrow escapes from a rain of bullets as the raider flew low with machine guns blazing.
The boy was killed by one of two bombs which fell on allotments. He was playing near where the bombs fell. His father Mr Albert Watson (38) who was at work on his allotment, was injured by machine gun bullets. He was taken to hospital along with another injured man, Mr. Alexander Topp who is sixty nine.
Despite his injury Mr Watson ran to look for his boy and found him lying dying. Another man who was working on the allotments had a remarkable escape. "Last week I took one of the plots, on which one of the bombs fell" he said. "I had gone to do some gardening, but fortunately I was working at another plot I have a short distance away. I was blown off my feet by the blast.
The raider came in from the sea flying low and circled round machine gunning all the time before dropping his bombs. Then he headed out to sea again.
Machine gun bullets streamed over the heads of children playing in a street nearby. A window in a building was riddled.
In another part of the town bullets rained down at the entrance to an air raid shelter while children were running into the shelter by another entrance. Several tool sheds on the allotments were destroyed by the bombs. Windows of greenhouses and dwelling houses in the vicinity were broken.
At the other town four people including a woman and a child were injured and taken to hospital. Six other people were treated for injuries at first aid posts.
The casualties were caused by bombs which fell on the outskirts of a municipal housing scheme.... Before disappearing over the sea the raider was subjected to a spirited attack by ground defenses.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:54 pm    Post subject: WW2 Robert Francis Wilson Reply with quote

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WILSON, ROBERT FRANCIS
Rank: Sergeant
Service No: 620764
Date of Death: 11/04/1943
Age: 22
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force 50 Sqdn.
Panel Reference: Panel 170.
Memorial: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of George Craig Wilson and Alice Agnes Wilson, of Aberdeen; husband of Ethel Wilson, of Aberdeen.

Aberdeen Journal 15 November 1943
KILLED OVER ENEMY TERRITORY
Sgt. Robert F. Wilson, flight engineer RAF is presumed to have lost his life in operations over enemy territory. he was reported missing in April.
Twenty three years of age, his wife and two daughters reside at 227 Holborn Street, Aberdeen. He is a son of Mr and Mrs George Wilson, 20 Rosehill Crescent, Aberdeen.


Bomber Command website states Sgt RF Wilson 610764 50 Squadron was in Lancaster Bomber ED478 VN-G out of RAF Skellingthorpe to bomb Frankfurt and Ditched off Skegness Lincs.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:07 pm    Post subject: WW2 Charles Porter Gray Reply with quote

GRAY, CHARLES PORTER
Rank: Civilian
Date of Death: 12/07/1940
Age: 47
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: ABERDEEN CITY, SCOTLAND
Additional Information:
Son of the late Mr. and Mrs. F. Gray, of 34 Hutcheon Street; husband of C. Gray, of 4 Girdlestone Place, Torry. Died at Hall and Russell's Shipyard, York Street.

Aberdeen Journal 18 July 1940
GRAY - Suddenly at Aberdeen on 12 July 1940 (the result of an accident), Charles Porter Gray, carter aged 47 years, beloved husband of Christian Cooper
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:23 pm    Post subject: WW2 James Stephen Dargie Reply with quote

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DARGIE, JAMES
Rank: Serjeant
Service No: 780041
Date of Death: 16/07/1944
Age: 34
Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery 86 (5th Bn. The Devonshire Regt.) Anti-Tank Regt.
Grave Reference: VIII. J. 12.
Cemetery:
ST. MANVIEU WAR CEMETERY, CHEUX

His body was recovered form the Battlefield and reburied.

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10 Aug 1944 Aberdeen Journal

Sergt James Dargie (33) R.A. (Field) son of the late Mr James Dargie and Mrs Dargie, 6 Rosemount Square, Aberdeen has been killed in action in France. He leaves a widow and four of a family who reside at 101 Wales Street, Aberdeen.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:29 pm    Post subject: WW2 James Strath Duff Reply with quote

7 November 1940 Aberdeen Weekly Journal
Aberdonian Dies in Colombo [Sri-Lanka]
Mr James Strath Duff, second son of Mr and Mrs William Duff, 4 Froghall Road, Aberdeen, has died suddenly in Colombo. He had recently received an engineering appointment on one of the City Line Vessels and was making his first voyage. On the way he contracted appendicitis and had to be landed at Colombo, where he died.
Mr Duff who was a native of the city was twenty three years of age. He was educated at the Central School and afterwards served his apprenticeship as an engineer with J.M. Henderson Ltd.
Mr Duff was well known in the Aberdeen Battalion of the Boys Brigade, being a Lieutenant in the 33rd company.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:48 pm    Post subject: WW2 Herbert Anthony Gray Reply with quote

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GRAY, HERBERT ANTHONY
Rank: Lance Serjeant
Service No: 920503
Date of Death: 15/07/1944
Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery 179 Field Regt.
Grave Reference: VIII. E. 8.
Cemetery: ST. MANVIEU WAR CEMETERY, CHEUX
Additional Information:
Son of Anthony Shirreffs Gray and Jessie Adam Gray, of Aberdeen; husband of Margaret Gray.

Aberdeen Journal 03 Aug 1944
An Aberdeen Royal Artilleryman Lance Sergeant Herbert Anthony Gray, whose wife resides at 20 Schoolhill, has been killed in action. The only son of Mr and Mrs A. Gray, 8 Wallfield Crescent he was called up as a territorial on the outbreak of war. He was a lieutenant in the 16th (East Church) Company Boys' Brigade.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:17 am    Post subject: WW1 The Craib brothers Reply with quote




Aberdeen Evening Express 4 April 1916
Private George Craib
Another death among Aberdeen soldiers at the battle of Loos, on September 25 last has now been announced to the relatives. The soldier was Private George Craib elder son of Mr and Mrs Craib, 52a Virginia Street, Aberdeen. He had previously been reported wounded and afterwards missing. Private Craib was 42 years of age. He joined the colours in September 1914, after having previously served for eleven years, his unit at that time being the 2nd Battalion Highland Light Infantry in which he went through the Tirah expedition and the South African War. Prior to the outbreak of the present war he was a trawl fisherman. His brother Private William Craib took part with the Australian contingent in the Dardanelles campaign and is now serving elsewhere.

CRAIB, GEORGE
Rank: Private
Service No: 8376
Date of Death: 25/09/1915
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry 12th Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 108 to 112.
Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL

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8 Sep 1916 Aberdeen Weekly News
L/Cpl W.O. Craib, Australians
Mr and Mrs George Craib 52a Virginia Street, Aberdeen, have been informed of the death from wounds of their son Lance Corporal W.O. Craib of the Australian Expeditionary force. He was enployed at the harbour before going to Australia over three years ago. When he enlisted he was in the service of the Brisbane Gasworks. With the Anzacs he was in the thick of the fighting at the Dardanelles, but came through that campaign without injury. He was 28 years of age. He is the second son Mr and Mrs Craib have lost, Private George Craib, an older brother and a veteran of the Tirah and South African campaigns, having fallen at Loos.

CRAIB, WILLIAM O.
Rank: Private
Service No: 252
Date of Death: 06/08/1916
Age: 28
Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F. 26th Bn.
Grave Reference: II. D. 14.
Cemetery:PUCHEVILLERS BRITISH CEMETERY [The Somme]
Additional Information:
Son of George and Mary A. Craib, of 59, Virginia St., Aberdeen.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:56 am    Post subject: WW1 George Gordon Duncan Robertson Reply with quote

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ROBERTSON, GEORGE GORDON DUNCAN
Rank: Corporal
Service No: S/11971
Date of Death: 26/10/1917
Age: 30
Regiment/Service: Gordon Highlanders "C" Coy. 2nd Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 135 to 136.
Memorial: TYNE COT MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of the late John and Arm Robertson, of 92, Great Northern Rd., Aberdeen.

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Aberdeen Weekly Jounal 4 Oct 1918
ROBERTSON - Previously reported wounded and missing on 26 October 1917, now officially reported killed on that date or since. A/Corporal George G.D. Robertson, Gordon Highlanders fifth and youngest son of John Robertson late of 92 Great Northern Road, Aberdeen aged 30 years. Deeply regretted.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:10 am    Post subject: WW1 Forbes Robertson Shirran Reply with quote

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SHIRRAN, FORBES [note spelling of surname differs to memorial]
Rank: Private
Service No: 20
Date of Death: 05/02/1915
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) 2nd Bn.
Grave Reference: II. E. 2.
Cemetery: LE TOURET MILITARY CEMETERY, RICHEBOURG-L'AVOUE

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Aberdeen Weekly Journal 19 Feb 1915
SHIRRAN -Killed in action on February 5 1915 Forbes Robertson Shirran 2nd Black Watch late of India, second surviving son of Forbes R. Shirran, 8 Canal Terrace Aberdeen

and the following year his father:
Aberdeen Evening Express 22 Jan 1916
SHIRRAN - At 9 Canal Terrace, Aberdeen (the residence of his son-in-law Andrew Cooper) on the 21st inst, Forbes Robertson Shirran (late A.S.N. Co.) Funeral on Tuesday 25th inst at 3pm to St. Clements Churchyard. Friends please accept this intimation and invitation.
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