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jrah60



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:39 pm    Post subject: Neilston War Memorial Reply with quote

The residents of Neilston, East Renfrewshire are in the process of raising funds to build a War Memorial within the village.
Part of the process is the design and construction of the memorial.
To this end the Fund Raising Committee are inviting people to participate in the following design competition.
Please feel free to participate.



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neilston



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi People
Please feel free to pass on our poster to any one who you may think will have an interest in helping us to design the New proposed Neilston War Memorial.
We are a small group from the Village in East Renfrewshire looking to build a memorial to accommodate soldiers from WW1 to the present day.
We have church memorials for WW1, but feel we need a public memorial in the village to bring all the soldiers together in one place.
We are fundraising and have over £15,000 raised to date,But we suspect over £40,000 will be required to ensure we erect a fitting monument.
We have a small team working away to ensure we have all the relevant soldiers for the village memorial, Who either where born, lived, worked, or enlisted in the general village locality. We are presently working through over 240 names for WW1 alone, And have a basic list for WW2 to start soon, so we have our work cut out in terms of research!
We have a book of condolence “The Neilston War memorial Book” that has helped raise money, by people posting comments in the Book and pledging donations, This is currently scheduled to go to The Westminster Parliament in a few weeks with our Chairman Councillor Paul O`Kane and the Shadow defence secretary MP Jim Murphy (who is one of our supporters), Hopefully this will gain us some TV coverage and press lines to help augment our cause and raise some awareness . The big Red book is also to go to Holyrood too, so keep an eye out for our book as it travels the Country.
One wee story from the Barrhead News from 1915 that keeps me focused , Tells of 12 lads from Neilston (Mostly Cameron Highlanders) meeting in the trenches prior to the big push for Loos Hill 70 and over a cup of tea Toasting “when we will be back home again in Neilston” Sadly the next day 4 of these brave lads had fallen and 6 where seriously wounded. By the end of the war very few of them ever made it home to Neilston! This is one reason why we need this memorial.

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Matthew
Secretary The Neilston War Memorial Association
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Adam Brown
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matthew

Thanks for the extra detail and good luck with the competition and fundraising.

We've had a few new memorials unveiled in recent years and posted on the forum.

Waterloo in Lanarkshire, Leith Academy WW2 and Glenrothes in Fife spring immediately to mind.

The first one took the form of a very traditional Celtic Cross, as have several new memorials. This is something monumental masons can do easily - effectively scaling up a grave headstone, and something which was common in the aftermath of the First World War when many of the country's war memorials were provided by monumental masons.

In comparison the Leith Academy and Glenrothes memorials were very different to the normal style of memorials we see in Scotland.

By opening out the design as a competition you may see many and varied submissions. The commitee will not have an easy task ahead of them.

If I can add one final thought - granite not sandstone and no stainless-steel!

Thanks

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Brown wrote:

If I can add one final thought - granite not sandstone and no stainless-steel!
Adam

Couldn't agree more, I have done a number of condition reports of war memorials for the War Memorials Trust and inappropriate materials account for most of the deterioration.
Sandstone, Limestone and Marble - just not tough enough for an outdoor location; lead lettering - letters fall off and fade; copper, brass and bronze - need regular treatment with microcrystalline wax to keep away verdigris, not to mention the problems with metal thieves

Good luck

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kinnethmont



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:32 pm    Post subject: Neilston War Memorial Reply with quote

Is there a specific reason for including the British Armed Forces Tri-Services emblem ( Veterans Badge ) on this new memorial?
It has no connection at all with any of those to be named on the memorial if they fell in the two World Wars, or on active service since.
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neilston



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Neilston War Memorial Reply with quote

kinnethmont wrote:
Is there a specific reason for including the British Armed Forces Tri-Services emblem ( Veterans Badge ) on this new memorial?
It has no connection at all with any of those to be named on the memorial if they fell in the two World Wars, or on active service since.


I am unsure why the badge is included, that would have been decided within the team working on design and Build, Thanks for the pointers on the actual materials best to use, I will pass these on to the relevant group. My own wee team are working away on research, Time consuming but very rewarding. I am also looking to try and get a book together with WW1 Photos, stories and maps etc. to try and turn these brave peoples Historical stories into reality. I have unearthed some fantastic stories from the district newspapers, But I have only managed to collect about 7 or 8 WW1 photos of the soldiers from our area in uniform, which is such a shame if this material has been lost to the community through the passage of time.

Any good photos for this project would be great fully received
Cheers
Matt
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim

The tri-services badge neatly encapsulates the army, navy and air force and is used by the MoD, it is not solely the preserve of veterans.

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/ministry-of-defence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Ministry_of_Defence.png

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:24 pm    Post subject: Neilston War Memorial Reply with quote

Adam

I do appreciate that, my point was that it does not relate to those named on the proposed memorial, this symbol simply did not exist when they died.
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