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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:58 pm    Post subject: Penpont Reply with quote

One of my favourite memorials, I use the second pic for my avatar.

I took the photos just after sunset and it gives a nice semi-cameo effect.

UKNIWM Ref: 8729

OS Map Ref: NX 840 940







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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice memorial.
Any idea of the sculptor?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sculptor was Kellock Brown, the same man who did Inveraray, Johnstone and Kilmaurs. The sculpture looks to be identical to Kilmaurs.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if the Fred m. Sincliar listed on the memorial is this man (assuming the surname is mispelled):
CWGC ENTRY:
Name: SINCLAIR, ALFRED MARRIOTT
Initials: A M
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Sergeant
Regiment/Service: Canadian Infantry (British Columbia Regiment)
Unit Text: 72nd Bn.
Date of Death: 09/04/1917
Service No: 129389
Additional information: Husband of Elizabeth N. Sinclair, of 158, Queen's Drive, Glasgow.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 10. A. 14.
Cemetery: CANADIAN CEMETERY No.2, NEUVILLE-ST. VAAST

his Canadian attestation papers can be viewed here and they state that he was born in Penpont:
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat2/096687a.gif
and the back page:
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat2/096687b.gif

He is also mentioned on the family gravestone in Cathcart Cemetery, Glasgow, which can be viewed here (listed near the bottom of the page):
http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/viewtopic.php?p=3852&mforum=scottishwargraves#3852
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamiemcginlay wrote:
The sculptor was Kellock Brown, the same man who did Inveraray, Johnstone and Kilmaurs


and Alyth, Perthshire
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:51 pm    Post subject: Fred M. Sincliar on Penpont WM Reply with quote

Yes spelling mistake of Sincliar on WM, found this is Alfred Marriott Sinclair, known as Affie, from Canadian Infantry Service No 129389 as you state.
Affie was third son of the late Segt and Mrs Sinclair of Penpont and his oldest brother was CSM F. W. Sinclair Service No 26 of lst/5th Bn. K.O.S.B died 11/11/1915

It is the older brother Fred who is on the WM and not the younger brother Alfred. Do not know where Alfred is perhaps Dumfries!!



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John McNish is buried in Willesden, London. He enlisted firstly into the Service Corps then into the Labour Corps (army number 302287) on 15 October 1915 age 42, he was a Draper/Packer. Discharged on 17 March 1919 no longer fit for War Service. He had 'malignant disease of the pharynx', i.e. throat cancer. Info from his pension record which is available on Ancestry. He served in France and was awarded the usual 3 war medals (from his medal index card).

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

26 CSM Frederick William Sinclair, 'A' Company, 1/5th KOSB

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:08 am    Post subject: Fred M. Sincliar on Penpont WM Reply with quote

Thanks for photo and information, will look in web site to see if can find others from KOSB on the WM.

Do you know anything about a John Miles who is on Penpont WM, only one I found was 6092 died 24/5/1916 born Edinburgh, and he was formly S/17831 In Queens Own Cam Highlanders, not sure if he one am looking for, can you help Please?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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will look in web site to see if can find others from KOSB on the WM.


Hi Teddy,

All help is gratefully received, thank you. Likewise, I am always happy to help where I can. Now that I have finished my Auchencairn WW1 book (due out in April), I should have some more free time to help others, if asked.

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