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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:09 pm    Post subject: Scottish News this lunchtime Reply with quote

There was a piece on this lunchtime says there will be money for refurbishing any Scottish War Memorial that is showing it's age.
Maybe worth a look at the teatime news and see if it is on again.
The memorial at Fyvie was the one they did the filming at.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scottish Government Press Release:
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/News/Releases/2013/01/to-preserve-memory-of-scotlands-war-dead14012013
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:28 pm    Post subject: BBC1 News Reply with quote

I forgot to say it was on BBC1
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The total allocated is £1M to be spent over the years 2014 to 2018. This is not connected to the grant schemes admistered by the War Memorials Trust. No details of how the scheme will work have been published except that applications are made direct to Historic Scotland, so we don't know for example if grants will cover 50% or 75% or even 100% of the work required.

Note also that the grants are available for all war memorials and not just those for WW1.

The following part of the announcement particularly caught my eye

“The events in 2014 to mark the anniversary of the outbreak of the Great War will not be a celebration in Scotland, but a commemoration of the servicemen and women who paid the ultimate price in defence of our country.

”Scotland’s war memorials – from the magnificent to the more modest – pay tribute to those fallen and will be an important part of the commemorations in communities the length and breadth of Scotland during 2014."

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spoons wrote:
Note also that the grants are available for all war memorials and not just those for WW1.


For many people a war memorial does mean the memorial on the high street erected after the First World War. In news articles and on the BBC last night the figure of 5-6,000 war memorials quoted by the Scottish Government has been presented as meaning there are that number of high street civic memorials. In fact that number is closer to 1,200 and that number is based on what we have found and recorded here.

The Scottish Government will have based that figure on Wikipedia of all things.

We used that figure ourselves when we started this project. UKNIWM said there were approximately 55,000 war memorials across the UK. Scotland's one-tenth of that figure would be about 5,500. UKNIWM have now revised that figure to 100,000 and I think that the numbers of memorials being found in Scotland by our project would support that increase and I wouldn't be at all surprised if the figure for Scotland was now around 10,000 war memorials.

If that is the case the 4,600 we have recorded to date shows we still have a long way to go!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not saying that Dumfries and Galloway is in any way special or even typical but I think it is more complete than any other region.

We have 550 recorded memorial with a further 22 known and my estimate of a further 30 in churches which have not yet been accessed, so call it 600 in total. Of these, 136 are civic.

For a ball park figure, take the civic memorials and multiply by 4.5 to get the total number of memorials. This should hold reasonably true for other rural areas but I have no idea whether this could also applies to the cities and urban areas. Actually, it is probably way more, the big churches in Edinburgh and Glasgow seem to have between 20 and 100 in each, but with few corresponding civic memorials.

Does this help?

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