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Stewartry
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Great work (as usual), Ken.
Just had a thought re James McCheyne 'Camerons'. It is possible that he had a pre-war connection with the regiment and that this confused matters. I don't have a subscription for Findmypast but note that a search of the 'British Army Service Records 1760-1915' records set returns:
MCCHEYNE James; born 1888; Newgalloway, Kirkcudbrightshire; WO97 Chelsea
Cheers,
Stuart
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Kenneth Morrison
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Stewartry wrote: | Just had a thought re James McCheyne 'Camerons'. It is possible that he had a pre-war connection with the regiment and that this confused matters. I don't have a subscription for Findmypast but note that a search of the 'British Army Service Records 1760-1915' records set returns:
MCCHEYNE James; born 1888; Newgalloway, Kirkcudbrightshire; WO97 Chelsea
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James attested on 15/11/1906 and joined 2nd KOSB 4 days later at Berwick as Private (9696) He gave his age as 18 years and 2 months.
He would have been 16 (born 1890)
The story gets a bit complicated after that but he was discharged in Glasgow with effect from 31 August 1909 "having been found medically unfit for further service. K.R.para 390(xvi)"
So still no Camerons connection, but a long term KOSB link.
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spoons
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Location: St John's Town of Dalry
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Had two articles published on this memorial in the Glenkens Gazette (a local free glossy).
From Feb/Mar edition
and from Apr/May edition
Thanks to Stuart Wilson and Ken Morrison whose contributions are acknowledged
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Kenneth Morrison
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| Kenneth Morrison wrote: | I'm pretty sure that the nephews are Thomas McCheyne, Pte 81625 DoD 26/4/1916 and Robert McCheyne Pte. 186638 DoD 6/11/1917.
Both served with the Canadian Infantry.
Thomas spent some time in New Galloway - his father (also Thomas) was an insurance agent but I think he was born in Wigtownshire and he is listed on the Kirkinner WM.
On his attestation papers Robert gives his birthplace as Newton Stewart and his father as Alexander of Creetown. |
Got this message a couple of days ago and Trudy has agreed to let me share it.
I was surprised and pleased to see my ancestors the McCheynes mentioned on the Kells Forum.
You are correct about Thomas and Robert McCheyne (the Canadian soldiers) being cousins of Alexander J, David McC, Francis W and James McCheyne. Their father James McClaymont McCheyne emigrated to Canada in 1919 with his son William Frederick and his family. He returned to Scotland on his own in 1924 and died in 1933 in Castle Douglas. His daughter Mary McCheyne B1880 in Crossmichael died in France I think about 1916. I have tried for several years to find out the circumstances of her death but can find nothing. The family story seems to be she was either a nurse or helping the Catholic Church in France. She was a domestic in the 1901 census in Edinburgh. I found her on a passenger list in 1910 going to Manitoba, Winnipeg as a domestic.
Robert McCheyne who died in 1917 (last day of the battle of Passendale) was my grand uncle. Thomas McCheyne who died in 1916 (Larchwood) was my 1st cousin, 2x removed. The war diaries in Canada have been digitised just recently. Both Robert and Thomas are mentioned in the Virtual War Memorial in Canada.
I am now in the possession of 36 letters written by my grand uncle Alexander McCheyne who won the Military Medal in 1917 presented by Major General Lipsett, Passendale Ridge. Alexander served in the Canadian Overseas 45th Battalion, merged into the 11th then finally into the 7th Brigade. Thankfully he survived the war. These letters are now on the Canadian Letters and Images Project, just been added last week.
I was very interested in the details regarding John McCheyne B1882, I lost track of him in 1891 and had no idea he was a soldier and had served in WW1.
My other grand uncle Thomas McCheyne B1900 Newton Stewart, enlisted in 1917 and lied about his age. His real age was discovered and he was then sent to the kitchens. When he reached 18 he was allowed to fight and ended up in the trenches. He survived the war and then moved to Canada.
We only have to families now in Great Britain the other McCheynes are either in Canada or the USA.
I would be very grateful if you have any more information regarding my McCheyne family.
Trudy Mitchell
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DelBoy
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Location: The County of Angus
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:37 am Post subject: Pte. John Murdoch |
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Not on this memorial, where his parents resided upon his death or on the Castle Douglas memorial, the town he was born in.
Canadian Attestation papers.
WW1
Pte. John Murdoch
(Glasgow Herald 6th March 1915)
"Information has been received that Private John Murdoch, of Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry, second son of the late Mr James R. Murdoch, New Galloway, was killed in action on February 18."
CWGC
MURDOCH, JOHN
Rank: Private
Service No: 697
Date of Death: 18/02/1915
Age: 38
Regiment/Service: Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry (Eastern Ontario Regiment)
Panel Reference: Panel 10.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of the late James Ramage Murdoch and Anne Dalziel Murdoch.
SNWM
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Kenneth Morrison
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Derek - as far as I can tell he does not appear on any Memorial in D&G.
I'm guessing that having spent so many years in the army before emigrating, and with his father being dead, there was no one around who remembered him.
Mind you a similar story happened to another Castle Douglas Canadian
BADENOCH, GEORGE HUNTLY
Rank:Private
Service No:19169
Date of Death:15/06/1915
Age:33
Regiment/Service:Canadian Infantry
1st Bn.
Panel Reference
MemorialVIMY MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Born at Castle Douglas, Scotland. Son of Alexander and Jeanne Badenoch, of Indian Head, Saskatchewan; husband of Ellen Henrietta Badenoch, of Regina, Saskatchewan.
He too is not listed on any memorial even though he was a well known professional footballer who played for the local team as well as Scottish and English League teams.
He did get a mention on the CD High School Roll of Honour. See
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=5333
but that was it.
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DelBoy
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:27 pm Post subject: L.Cpl. Arthur Rennie |
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| Kenneth Morrison wrote: | PTE. ARTHUR RENNIE, 2nd CAMERONS.
Arthur Rennie, Lance Corporal (7902) 2nd Battalion, The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders. Age 29.
Born 1885 at Gateside, Kirkgunzeon, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of Police Constable William Rennie and of Mary Isabella (Brown) Rennie of New Galloway, Kells. Arthur had been a gardener on the Kenmure Estate, Kells before he joined the army. He been in India for 7 years when war broke out.
Killed in action 12 March 1915 and buried in Voormezeele Enclosure No.3, Ypres, Belgium. |
(Glasgow Herald 2nd of April 1915)
"Police-Sergeant Rennie, Dalry, Kirkcudbrightshire, has received official intimation from the War Office that his brother Lance-Corporal Arthur Rennie, 2nd Battalion Cameron Highlanders, had been killed in action on March 12. Lance-Corporal Rennie was the fifth son of the late Constable W. Rennie, Carsphairn, and previous to joining the army was employed as a gardener at Kenmore Castle, New Galloway." |
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stuartn
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While this memorial had been entered on the WMR/UKNIWM the record was not as well written as it might have been.
It has now been upgraded and the names added |
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