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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:01 pm    Post subject: DUNDEE, DUNDEE TRAINING COLLEGE (Former) WW1 Reply with quote

Now located on Dundee University Campus;



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More information on Lt Christopher Sanderson DSO can be found here:

http://tudhoevillage.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/lt-c-sanderson.html

He was from Tudhoe, Co. Durham and was married to a Dundonian.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On that link it called the college The Dundee Training College of Hygiene and Physical Training.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From St. Andrew's University RoH
James Stewart Chalmers, M.A. 1912. Second Lieutenant, 12th (Service) Battalion, Princess Louise's (Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders).
Attached 1st Battalion, The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders.
Born 23rd July 1891.
Died in Glasgow, 7th October 1916, from wounds received on the Somme.

CHALMERS, JAMES STEWART
Rank:Second Lieutenant
Date of Death:07/10/1916
Age:25
Regiment/Service:Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
Grave ReferenceG. 3. 290.
CemeteryDUNDEE (BALGAY) CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of David and Jane Chalmers, of 58, Barrack St., Dundee.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kenneth Morrison wrote:
From St. Andrew's University RoH
James Stewart Chalmers, M.A. 1912. Second Lieutenant, 12th (Service) Battalion, Princess Louise's (Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders).
Attached 1st Battalion, The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders.
Born 23rd July 1891.
Died in Glasgow, 7th October 1916, from wounds received on the Somme.


Thanks Ken. Dundonian James Chalmers is also commemorated on the Clyne War Memorial in Brora. His parents cam from humble backgrounds and it looks like Lt Chalmers had worked his way up in the world. I think he may have been a teacher in Brora before the war but that is still to be confirmed.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two further St. Andrew's men:

Alexander Brough, Student in Arts and Science, 1911-15. Second Lieutenant, 12th (Service) Battalion, The Cameronians (Scottish Rifles). Born 1st January 1893. Killed in action at Suvla, the Dardanelles,
17th November 1915.

BROUGH, ALEXANDER
Rank:Second Lieutenant
Date of Death:18/11/1915
Age:22
Regiment/Service:Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
12th Bn.
Grave ReferenceI. H. 15.
CemeteryHILL 10 CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of George Balfour Brough and Agnes Alston Wilson Brough, of 14, Symers St., Downfield, Dundee.

Alexander Ramsay, M.A. 1911. Teacher, Dundee.
Private, l/5th Battalion, The Royal Scots Fusiliers, in Gallipoli and Egypt. Second Lieutenant, 4th, attached 1st, Battalion, The Royal Scots Fusiliers.
Born 6th December 1887. Reported "missing," later reported killed near Henin, Arras, 28th March 1918.

RAMSAY, ALEXANDER
Rank:Second Lieutenant
Date of Death:28/03/1918
Regiment/Service:Royal Scots Fusiliers
1st/4th Bn. attd. 1st Bn.
Awards:M C
Panel ReferenceBay 5.
MemorialARRAS MEMORIAL
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Brown wrote:

James Stewart Chalmers, M.A... I think he may have been a teacher in Brora before the war but that is still to be confirmed.


Thanks to Morag Sutherland for confirmation of Chalmers appointment at Brora

24 July 1913 The Northern Times
Clyne Higher School board has appointed Mr. James S Chalmers M A Hons to the post of mathematical and science teacher in Clyne School.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:51 pm    Post subject: Missing names Reply with quote

Looking at the minutes of the St Andrews&Dundee Provincial Training Centre for 1919 reveals an anomaly.
Seven men who died and are listed in the Roll of Service as of 26 December 1918 are not on the Memorial whilst Patrick Anderson,who is not listed as dead but who subsequently died,is indeed on the Memorial.
So far i have not been able to uncover why this occurred.
The missing names are:
John B Beveridge
James R Dow
William G Duncan
James B Gibson
Fred T Mackenzie
George C Miller
James W Pryde

Unveiling
The service and ceremony of unveiling was held in the College Hall on 22nd February 1924.The Rev Mr Nelson,Chairman of the Provincial Committee,presided and Mr James Malloch,Executive Officer of the National Committee,and who was Director of Studies during the war years,unveiled the Memorial.The Very Rev Principal Galloway offered up the Dedicatory Prayer,after which the Director of Studies,on behalf of the Memorial Committee,handed over the Memorial to the keeping of the Chairman and Members of the St Andrews&Dundee Provincial Committee

Another riddle is that many of those who died came from Wales and Northern England to study in Dundee-does anyone know why when Newcastle,Edinburgh etc had training centres?

More details on all the names in due course!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hugh - I'm not sure if this helps but the last name on your list was a medic rather than a teacher Confused

PRYDE, JAMES WATSON
Rank: Lieutenant
Date of Death: 05/05/1918
Age: 27
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) 7th Bn. attd. 3rd Bn. 1st King's African Rifles
Memorial: DAR ES SALAAM BRITISH AND INDIAN MEMORIAL

Additional Information:
Son of Agnes Thomson Watson or Pryde, of 28, North George St., Dundee, and the late David Storrier Pryde.
Graduate and Medical Student (St. Andrew's University).

James Watson Pryde, M.A. 1913. Second Lieutenant,
2/7th (Fife) Battalion, The Black Watch (Royal
Highlanders). Captain, in command of " B " Company,
3/1 st The King's African Rifles, Nyasaland.
Born 14th March 1891. Killed in action, 5th May
1918, at Nakati, Portuguese East Africa
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

However the second man was a teacher Confused

DOW, JAMES ROBERTSON
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Date of Death: 11/04/1918
Age: 36
Regiment/Service: South Lancashire Regiment 2nd Bn.
Memorial: PLOEGSTEERT MEMORIAL

Additional Information:
Son of Robert Dow, of Perth; husband of Alison W. Dow (nee Morison), of 3, Milliken Drive, Milliken Park, Renfrewshire. M.A., B.Sc. (St. Andrews).

James Robertson Dow, M.A. 1903, B.Sc. Science
and Mathematics Master, Johnstone H.G. School.
Enlisted Royal Field Artillery. Transferred to The
Tyneside Scottish Battalion, The Northumberland
Fusiliers, then to 2nd Battalion, The Prince of
Wales's Own (West Yorkshire Regiment). After
service in France, commissioned Second Lieutenant,
8th (Service) Battalion, The Prince of Wales's Volunteers
(South Lancashire Regiment). Born 10th
March 1882. Killed in action at Ploegsteert, N. of
Armentieres, 11th April 1918.



Medal card of Dow, James R
Yorkshire Regiment 41103 Lance Corporal
South Lancashire Regiment 41103 Commissary
South Lancashire Regiment Second Lieutenant
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David Tait Kinnear
Corporal
17130
15th Royal Scots
kia: 4/8/1916
27
Mentioned in Despatches
Thiepval Memorial Pier&Face 6D&7D

Born 20/6/1889.Son of William Tait Kinnear(schoolmaster at Kirkbuddo) and Janet Agnes Kinnear,Walden,Linksfield Street,Leven.
Assistant teacher at Cowdenbeath Public School.Commemorated on Inverarity War Memorial and on Forfar Academy Memorial

His brother also died in the war:

Alexander Hope Kinnear,2nd Lt,9th Gordons attached to 15th Cyclists,died of gas poisoning on 19th July 1917 aged 22
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

William Hunter
Lieutenant
10th Battn Cheshire Regt att; Leicesters
kia; 10/10/1916
21
Son of John Hunter,5 Tay Street, Newburgh
Warloy-Baillon Communal Cemetery Extension V.D.20

Commemorated in Newburgh Cemetery
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Alfred Williamson Gillender
Lt
3rd South Staffs att: 7th Lincolns
dow: 10/4/1917
26
St Nicholas British Cemetery I.D.16

Born Dent,Yorkshire on 11/5/1890.Son of Robert&Mary Gillender-father a methodist minister.Married Madeline Waghorn in June 1911.Two sons,Hilton and George.Enlisted as private in RAMC,promoted to 2Lt in Dec 1915.Assistant schoolteacher.Brother Robert Henry(b1884) awarded MC.
Commemorated on Allendale memorial at St Cuthbert`s Church and the Book of Remembrance in St Andrews Church,Charmouth.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David Alexander Mitchell
LCpl
24057
Duke of Wellington`s(West Riding) Regt
kia:10/4/1918
30
Son of Charles Mitchell,21 Carnegie Street,Arbroath
Tyne Cot Memorial Panel 82 to 85 and 162A

Teacher at Keptie School.Match Secretary of Arbroath Amateur FC.
Commemorated on Arbroath High School,Arbroath Civic and Arbroath Roll of Honour.

Curiously enough he is not listed in the 26 December 1918 list in the Committee minutes.
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