The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project

Ross996 · Joined: 08 Jul 2012 Posts: 4 Location: Ayrshire

Adam,
I think that the sections Derek identified on this memorial are correct. The last section for WW1 is from the Waterside memorial. The only Nane That I can see as being out of place is William Hill Who came from Benquhat.
John McMurdo Menzies 2nd Royal Scots, lived in Dalmellington but was born in Sanquhar and, I think, is also on a memorial there.
Hope this is helpful
Ross

Adam Brown · Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:34 pm Post subject:

Ross

Thanks for the update. The local knowledge is just what we need. Interesting to see that the Waterside memorial also lists the same names.

http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1222

Do you know which places the other two 'splits' in the names for the First World War are for?

Thanks

Adam

DelBoy · Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:38 pm Post subject:

After looking at some casualties from each section, could it be for WW1?

Dalmellington
Benquhat (aka Benwhat)
Dunaskin
Waterside

Derek.

Ross996 · Joined: 08 Jul 2012 Posts: 4 Location: Ayrshire

Hi,
The sections are for Dalmellington, up to James Williamson. Benwhat, to William Bryan. Lethanhill and Burfoothill up to William Talman and Waterside (Dunaskin), Adam Vance.
It looks like the lads from these areas were added to Dalmellington memorial.
I used to walk past this Memorial when going to school and wondered who these men were.
Ross

Adam Brown · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:20 pm Post subject:

See also the deserted villages of

Benquhat War Memorial

http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1224

And the Lethanhill and Burnfoot War Memorial

http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1223

Adam

DelBoy · Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:57 am Post subject: Pte. Walter Muir

WW1
Waterside (Dunaskin)
Walter Muir

(Glasgow Herald 24th March 1915)
"Mr & Mrs William Muir, residing at 19 New Cottages, Waterside, Dunaskin, have now received official intimation, through Hamilton Depot, that their son, Lance-Corporal Walter Muir, 1st Battalion R.S.F. died at No. 3 casualty station on February 28 as the result of wounds received in action. Lance-Corporal Muir, who was 26 years of age, joined the Army on the outbreak of war, having been previously in the territorials. He was employed at Ayr locomotive sheds before enlisting."

CWGC
MUIR, W
Rank: Lance Corporal
Service No: 12549
Date of Death: 28/02/1915
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers 1st Bn.
Grave Reference: II. O. 28.
Cemetery: POPERINGHE OLD MILITARY CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: MUIR
Firstname: Walter
Service Number: 12549
Date Death: 28/02/1915
Place of birth: Waterside Ayrshire
Other: 1st Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Rank: L/Cpl

DelBoy · Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:26 am Post subject: Sgt. Joseph Brown

WW1
DALMELLINGTON
Joseph Brown

(Glasgow Herald 25th March 1915)
"Sergeant Joseph Brown, 2nd Royal Scots Fusiliers, was killed in a charge, being shot in the heart. He joined the 3rd Battalion (Special Reserve), but was afterwards transferred to the 2nd Battalion. He had previously been in the Army, and rejoined after war broke out. He was a noted bird fancier, and was long connected with Dalmellington, of which his wife is a native, by whom he is survived and five of a family."

CWGC
BROWN, JOSEPH
Rank: Serjeant
Service No: 16621
Date of Death: 12/03/1915
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers 2nd Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 12 and 13.
Memorial: LE TOURET MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Husband of Margaret Brown, of 9, North Richmond St., Edinburgh.

SNWM
Surname: BROWN
Firstname: Joseph
Service Number: 16621
Date Death: 12/03/1915
Place of birth: Coylton Ayrshire
Other: 2nd Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Rank: Sgt

Kenneth Morrison · Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:08 pm Post subject:

I'm not 100% sure but I think that the DAVID KELLY listed in the Dalmellington section could be this man:

KELLIE, DAVID
Rank:Private
Service No:S/23347
Date of Death:03/05/1917
Regiment/Service:Cameron Highlanders
5th Bn.
Panel ReferenceBay 9.
MemorialARRAS MEMORIAL
Additional Information:

He is listed on the Kirkcowan Parish War Memorial in Wigtownshire and SDGW gives his birthplace as Kirkcowan - resident in Dalmellington.
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Ken

Kenneth Morrison · Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:46 pm Post subject:

John Walker McCreadie – age 33 – Private (31133) 14th Battalion, Highland Light Infantry.
John was a Forester on the Craigengillan Estate, Dalmellington when he enlisted in June 1916.
He was born in 1884 at Garlieston, Sorbie, Wigtownshire. Son of William and Jane (Walker) McCreadie of Garlieston.
Husband of Maggie Miller (Adair) McCreadie of Extreme Point, Garlieston and later of Main Street, Port William, Mochrum who he married in 1908 in Killantrae, Mochrum, Wigtownshire.
He died of wounds on 24 April 1917, at Villers-Plouich, France. John was originally buried in Fins Churchyard but was re-interred after the war in Fins New British Cemetery, Sorel-le-Grand, Somme, France.
He is also named on the Mochrum Parish War Memorial in Port William and on the Sorbie Parish War Memorial in Garlieston.

Tom Lang has provided lots of detail on the Sorbie thread at
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=2128
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Ken

Tom Lang · Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Posts: 80

A Beattie

The Glasgow Herald, Tuesday, 24th April, 1917.
"Deaths on Service.
TALMAN.- Killed in action on 9th April, Sergt. James M'Gill Talman, Royal Scots, and of Royal Bank, Dunfermline, second son of John Talman, Waterside, Dunaskin, Ayrshire."

Enlisted on 26th. September, 1914 (Edinburgh).
Age:- 31.
Occupation:- Bank Teller.
Home address: 15, Viewfield Place, Dunfermline.

SNWM - WW1
Surname TALMAN
Forename James McGill
Rank L Sgt
Service number 17256
Decoration
Place of birth Dalmellington Ayrshire
Date of death 9 April 1917
Theatre of death F&F
Cause of death Killed in action
SNWM roll THE ROYAL SCOTS (LOTHIAN REGIMENT)
Unit name Unknown Unit attached to THE ROYAL SCOTS LOTHIAN REGIMENT
Other detail 15th Bn.

CWGC - TALMAN, James McGill
Rank: Lance Serjeant
Service No: 17256.
Date of Death: 09/04/1917. Age: 34.
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots 15th Bn.
Panel Reference: Bay 1 and 2. (Bay 1.)
Memorial: ARRAS MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of John and Anne Talman, of Waterside, Dunaskin, Ayrshire.

Service Records online.
Medal Index ticket:-

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D5476378
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Andrew.

spoons · Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:25 pm Post subject:

This memorial has had its second major makeover in a decade. I notice that the plaque to James Orr (now redundant) has been removed and replaced by a notice of the previous renovation. Cast iron poppies have been added on the corners and to the gate. The bench that was in front of the memorial has now been removed and the concrete platform extended - this should make it much more conducive to services at the site. Finally, the East Ayrshire WW1 commemorative bench has been installed.

\Paul

anne park · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:02 am Post subject: John Bain

John J Bain Pte 260152 5th Gordon Highlanders b Dalmellington, Ayr e Dalmellington Age 23 Died of Wounds F&F 01/08/1917 Son of Mr. and Mrs. Wm. Bain, of Dalmellington, Ayrshire. Soldiers Effects: Mo: Jane. Brandhoek New Military Cemetery, Vlamertinghe B 007 Plot I Row B Grave 06 AJ 01-09-17 P4: Dalmellington
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anne park · Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 4:20 pm Post subject: James Richardson Private GH

James Richardson Private S/6449 2nd Bn. Gordon Highlanders b Dalmellington, Ayr. e Dalmellington Age 21 Killed in Action Somme, France 01/05/1916 Son of James and Janet Lauderdale Richardson, of 16, Croft St., Dalmellington, Ayrshire. Soldiers Effects: Sister Annie. Soldiers Will 6 Pages. Citadel New Military Cemetery, Fricourt Fr 0394 Plot V Row D Grave 16 Evening Times 11-5-16 Page 5: Photo The Scotsman 24-05-16 P11: Dalmellington
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anne park · Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 1:53 pm Post subject: David Smith GH

David Smith Cpl 202450 4th Gordon Highlanders b Dalmellington,Ayr e Ayr Killed in Action F&F 20/08/1918 Soldiers Effects: Fa: David. Vis-En-Artois Memorial M. R. 16 Panel 10 Evening Times 16-09-18 Page 3: Photo The Scotsman 04-10-18 P6: Dalmellington
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