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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:11 am    Post subject: Colin Kennedy Haldane Reply with quote

Colin Kennedy Haldane 2nd Lt 26th Manchester Regt attd MGC born Dumbarton Age 26 Died of Wounds F & F 18-Oct-16 Son of Mark and Annie Haldane. 1891 Census: 147 High Street: Dumbarton. B 1890. 1901 Census: 3 Levengrove Terr; Dumbarton. Husband of Margaret Young Haldane, of 112, East Princes St., Helensburgh, Edinburgh. Carnoy Military Cemetery Fr 0513 Row S Grave 9 Dumbarton & Keith
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Dumbarton Reply with quote

jamiemcginlay wrote:
Dumbarton - West Dunbartonshire District

Thomson Peter Piper


I cannot be sure that this is the same man, but here are his details:

CWGC
Name: THOMSON
Initials: P
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 14th Bn
Date of Death: 24/04/1917
Service No: 25103 [His MIC shows 25193]
Grave/Memorial Reference: IV. L. 3.
Cemetery: FINS NEW BRITISH CEMETERY, SOREL-LE-GRAND

SNWM
Surname: THOMSON
Firstname: Peter
Service Number: 25103 [His MIC shows 25193]
Date of Death: 24/04/1917
Place of birth: Catherline Kincardineshire [read Catterline]
Other: 14th Bn
SNWM roll: THE HIGHLAND LIGHT INFANTRY
Rank: Pte

PETER NOBLE THOMSON was born on 29th July, 1894, at Noy, Catterline, Kincardineshire.
His parents were Peter Thomson, a butcher, and Mary Noble or Thomson.
His parents were married on 1st January, 1895, at St Philips Episcopal Church, Catterline, Kincardineshire.
His paternal grandparents were John Thomson, a shepherd, and Jane Nicolson or Thomson.
His maternal grandparents were James Noble, a fisherman, and Jane Brodie or Noble.

In the 1901 census, Peter Thomson, now age 6, was living with his family at 4 Overtown Terrace, Dumbarton.

In the 1911 census, Peter Thomson, now age 16, was living with his family at 4 Overtown Terrace, Dumbarton.

Peter Thomson, Robert Lang (my grandfather), and 10 others died on 24th April, 1917, at Villers-Plouich, France.
Peter Thomson 'Died of Wounds' that day.

Peter Thomson was 22 years and 8 months old on 24th April, 1917.

The following link is to a website dedicated to the 14th Battalion HLI and the specific page for Peter Thomson:
http://www.14hli.co.uk/died/thomsonp.html
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Remembering my grandfather Pte 37091 Robert Lang 14th Bn HLI, killed in action 24 Apr 1917 at Gouzeaucourt, France.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:04 am    Post subject: Peter Thomson Reply with quote

Thanks for the info I have added his name and details to my NE men on my database. I look for Kincardineshire men and research and visit them.
In November I will be visiting
George Dutch Pte 240361 5th Black Watch born Laurencekirk enlisted Edzell Age 20 Killed in Action F & F 14-Oct-16 Son of William & Isabella Dutch, Hatton Cottar House, Marykirk. Brother Andrew also died. 1901 Census 265/2/1 age 4 born Marykirk. Connaught Cemetery, Thiepval Fr 0215 Plot X Row G Grave 6 Marykirk Memorial
I am also going to visit
Ian Raymond Murchison Pte 639 7th Gordon Highlanders born Huntly enlisted Banchory Age 19 Died F & F 20-May-15 Son of Donald Murchison, Gardener (Domestic) & Annie Murchison, Brae Cottage, Keith-hall, Inverurie. 1901 Census: Deeview Cottage, Banchory. 1911-1912 Voter's Roll: Baldarroch. Hazebrouck Communal Cemetery Fr 0200 Plot II Row C Grave 23 Banchory Memorial and
William Christie Pte S/32292 6th Cameron Highlanders born Echt 08/01/1899 enlisted Aberdeen residence Banchory Age 19 Killed in Action F & F 04-Oct-18 Son of Mary C. Stuart, Bee Hive Villa, Balnagask Rd; Torry, Aberdeen. Formerly in the Lovat Scouts. Son of Mrs Christie, Crows Nest, Banchory. 1901 Census: Millon Of Finnercy Croft staying with grandparents. Philosophe British Cemetery, Mazingarbe Fr 0115 Plot III Row G Grave 04 ADJ 26-10-18 List of Killed:Private. Banchory Memorial
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Peter Thomson Reply with quote

Hello Anne,

I'm just a 'newbie' around here, and I want you to be aware that I'm not sure if this is the same man who died with my grandfather.

I found Peter Thomson listed with my grandfather on the 'Service Returns' on the ScotlandsPeople website. This shows he 'Died of Wounds' that day.
From there I found him on the CWGC, SNWM and SDGW. Each of these show his army number as 25103.
I found his MIC which shows 25193.

The SNWM and SDGW each show his place of birth as "Catherline Kincardineshire". This should be Catterline.

The SDGW show his residence as 'Dumbarton'.

The Battalion War Diary shows the only 'action' in April, 1917, is when the Bn were in Support of the East Surrey Regt on the capture of the village of Villers-Plouich.

I found his parents marriage record which shows they were married on the 1st Jan 1895, at St Philips Episcopal Church, Catterline (Parish of Kinnieffs & Catterline), Kincardineshire.
His father's address is 1 Allan Place, Dumbarton.
His mother's address is Noy, Catterline.

His birth record shows he was born at Noy, Catterline, Kincardineshire.
The 1901 census shows he was born at "Dunottar, Kincardineshire"
The 1911 census shows that he was born at "Stonehaven, Kincardineshire".

The 1901 and 1911 census records for Dumbarton show that he is the eldest child, and the next born is a sister Mary.
There is a Mary Noble Thomson born in Dumbarton in 1896 (Mary Noble is his mother's maiden name).

I hope this information is clear, and I have a digital 'dossier' on Peter Thomson which includes all the documents I have on him so far.

If you'll allow me, I'll send a PM with my private email address.
If you want to reply, I'll forward a copy of my 'dossier' on Peter.

The only issue to remember here is that Peter Thomson on the Dumbarton Memorial shows him as a 'Piper'.

Kindest Regards.
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Remembering my grandfather Pte 37091 Robert Lang 14th Bn HLI, killed in action 24 Apr 1917 at Gouzeaucourt, France.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:53 am    Post subject: Pte. George Harris Reply with quote

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Pte. George Harris

(Glasgow Herald 9th April 1915)
"Official intimation has been received from the War Office by Mrs George Harris, 31 William Street, Dennystown, Dumbarton, that her husband, Private George Harris (1937), of the 1st Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders, had been killed at the front on March 17 last. He was an old soldier and was 47 years of age, and was employed as a fitters helper in Messrs Denny's Yard, Dumbarton. He served 18 years between the regulars and the reserves. His time had expired in the reserves, but he volunteered for service, joining the 4th A. & S.H. He was only 11 days at the front when he met his death, and he leaves a widow to mourn his loss. Harris served in the Boer War and took part in the Dargai and Chitral campaigns."

CWGC
HARRIS, G
Rank: Private
Service No: 1937
Date of Death: 17/03/1915
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders 1st Bn.
Grave Reference: XIII. A. 8.
Cemetery: VOORMEZEELE ENCLOSURE NO.3

SNWM
Surname: HARRIS
Firstname: George
Service Number: S/1937
Date Death: 17/03/1915
Place of birth: Barony Lanarkshire
Other: 1st Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:40 am    Post subject: Pte. William McDiarmid Reply with quote

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Pte. William McDiarmid

(Glasgow Herald 10th April 1915)
"Private. Wm. McDiarmid, 70 High Street, Dumbarton, was killed in action on March 24. He enlisted for the duration of the war in the 2nd Gordon highlanders."

CWGC
McDIARMID, W
Rank: Private
Service No: S/3520
Date of Death: 24/03/1915
Age: 20
Regiment/Service: Gordon Highlanders 2nd Bn.
Grave Reference: II. D. 25.
Cemetery: RUE-DU-BOIS MILITARY CEMETERY, FLEURBAIX
Additional Information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. Sinclair McDiamlid, of 60, Alclutha Avenue, Dumbarton.

SNWM
Surname: McDIARMID
Firstname: William
Service Number: S/3520
Date Death: 24/03/1915
Place of birth: Dumbarton
Other: 2nd Bn.
SNWM roll: THE GORDON HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:27 pm    Post subject: Pte. James Colquhoun Reply with quote

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Pte. James Colquhoun

(Glasgow Herald 15th April 1915)
"Information has been received by his parents at Levenhaugh Street, West Bridgend, Dumbarton, that Private James Colquhoun, B Company, 1/9th A. and S.H. was killed in action on Wednesday, April 7. A chum writing to Private Colquhoun's parents, says - "He was shot through the heart by a bullet." Private Colquhoun went out to the front with his regiment in the beginning of February."

CWGC
COLQUHOUN, JAMES
Rank: Private
Service No: 2512
Date of Death: 07/04/1915
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders 1st/9th Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 42 and 44.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: COLQUHOUN
Firstname: James
Service Number: 2512
Date Death: 07/04/1915
Place of birth: Dumbarton
Other: 1/9th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:52 pm    Post subject: Sgt. Alexander Skinner Reply with quote

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Sgt. Alexander Skinner

Also listed on the Dingwall memorial.

Aberdeen University Roll of Honour page 3.
"SKINNER, ALEXANDER: Sergeant, 4th Battalion Gordon Highlanders; son of John Skinner, roadman; born Dingwall, 21 July 1889; educated Dingwall Academy ; Glasgow Technical College; Aberdeen Provincial Training College; Aberdeen University (Arts and Science, 1909-11). He joined "U" Coy., Gordon Highlanders while in Aberdeen. On being appointed assistant master and manual instructor of the Supplementary School, Dumbarton, he continued a member of the University Company. In August 1914 he was in camp with the unit at Tain, and proceeded to the war station at Bedford from whence he went to France in February 1915. He was killed in the trenches in Flanders on 22 April 1915 by a rifle bullet which came from an enfilading flank 900 yards away. Alick Skinner was an excellent stamp of Highlander. "Your son," an officer wrote to the widowed mother, "was one of the finest men. He was a splendid soldier ... so reliable and could ill be spared."

(Glasgow Herald 29th April 1915)
"Mrs Collins, 145 1/2 High Street, Dumbarton, has been informed by his relatives of the death in action of Sergeant Alex. Skinner, 4th Gordons (Territorials). Sergeant Skinner was a member of the staff of Dumbarton supplementary school and a graduate of Aberdeen University. He was a Dingwall man and a prominent member of Dumbarton Y.M.C.A."

CWGC
SKINNER, ALEXANDER
Rank: Serjeant
Service No: 973
Date of Death: 22/04/1915
Regiment/Service: Gordon Highlanders 4th Bn.
Grave Reference: IV. C. 7.
Cemetery: WYTSCHAETE MILITARY CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. Skinner, of Mansefield, Dingwall.

SNWM
Surname: SKINNER
Firstname: Alexander
Service Number: 973
Date Death: 22/04/1915
Place of birth: Dingwall Ross-shire
Other: 4th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE GORDON HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Sgt
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:13 am    Post subject: Pte. Paul McEwan Reply with quote

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Pte. Paul McEwan

(Glasgow Herald 6th May 1915)
"Private Paul McEwan, machine-gun section, C Company, 1/9th (Dumbartonshire) A. & S.H. has died from wounds. He was 19 years of age and had been two years in the Territorials. His is a fighting family, his grandfather having served with Lord Roberts in the Afghan War and in the Egyptian War, his father and uncle in the Boer War, and another uncle in the Soudan War. Private McEwan's elder brother is at the front."

CWGC
McEWAN, PAUL
Rank: Private
Service No: 1925
Date of Death: 25/04/1915
Age: 19
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders "C" Coy. 9th Bn.
Grave Reference: II. L. 43.
Cemetery: POPERINGHE OLD MILITARY CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. Paul McEwan, of 238, High St., Dumbarton.

SNWM
Surname: McEWAN
Firstname: Paul
Service Number: 1925
Date Death: 25/04/1915
Place of birth: Dumbarton
Other: 1/9th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:22 pm    Post subject: Pte. Robert Robb Reply with quote

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Pte. Robert Robb

(Glasgow Herald 12th May 1915)
"Mrs Robb, 144 West Bridgend, Dumbarton, has received intimation that her son, Private Robert Robb, B Company, 1/9th (Dumbartonshire) A. and S.H., has met his death in France. Private Robb was 24 years of age, and joined the Territorials last February, proceeding to the front with a draft from the 2/9th Argylls. He resided at 144 West Bridgend, Dumbarton."

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ROBB, ROBERT
Rank: Private
Service No: 2650
Date of Death: 04/05/1915
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders 1st/9th Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 42 and 44.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: ROBB
Firstname: Robert
Service Number: 2650
Date Death: 04/05/1915
Other: 1/9th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:54 am    Post subject: Pte. Stuart G. Penman Reply with quote

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Pte. Stuart G. Penman

also on church memorial

(Glasgow Herald 21st May 1915)
"Killed in action in the North of France, on the 10th inst. Stuart Penman, aged 22. Private 1/9th Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders, youngest son of Mr & Mrs Andrew Penman, Alcluith, Dumbarton."

CWGC
PENMAN, STUART
Rank: Private
Service No: 2634
Date of Death: 10/05/1915
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders 1st/9th Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 42 and 44.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: PENMAN
Firstname: Stuart
Service Number: 2634
Date Death: 10/05/1915
Place of birth: Dumbarton
Other: 1/9th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:37 pm    Post subject: Pte. William Moodie Reply with quote

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Pte. William Moodie

Also listed on St Augustine's church memorial.

(Glasgow Herald 29th May 1915)
"His parents at 7 Brewery Lane, Dumbarton, have been informed of the death in action on May 10 of Private William Moodie, 1-9th A. and S.H. He was 28 years of age, and joined the colours at the beginning of the war."

CWGC
MOODIE, WILLIAM
Rank: Private
Service No: 2592
Date of Death: 10/05/1915
Age: 28
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders 1st/9th Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 42 and 44.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of Robert and Margaret Moodie, of 7 Brewery Lane, Dumbarton.

SNWM
Surname: MODDIE (Moodie)
Firstname: William
Service Number: 2592
Date Death: 10/05/1915
Place of birth: Cardross Dumbartonshire
Other: 1/9th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:24 pm    Post subject: The Dumbarton war memorial Reply with quote

Hi every one, I have been looking at the War Memorial and noticed the name John Gemmell...Lance Corporal.....Can anyone tell me how to find out his Army No.......He may be my Great Grandfather Smile ...Kind Regards to all....Ray.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:41 am    Post subject: John Gemmell Reply with quote

7484 KOSB on CWGC I put in Gemmell J Army WWI then when the list came up put Dumbarton in the info box bottom of filter....
Hope that's who you wanted.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Ray. Does this "fit" with your relative?

Scottish National War Memorial has:
Surname GEMMELL
Forename John
Rank L Cpl
Service number 7484
Decoration
Place of birth Port Glasgow Renfrew.
Date of death 4 June 1915
Theatre of death Dardanelles
Cause of death Killed in action
SNWM roll THE KING'S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS
Unit name Unknown Unit attached to THE KING'S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS
Other detail 1st Bn.

CWGC has:
GEMMELL, JOHN
Rank:Lance Corporal
Service No:7484
Date of Death:04/06/1915
Age:27
Regiment/Service:King's Own Scottish Borderers
1st Bn.
Panel ReferencePanel 84 to 92 or 220 to 222.
MemorialHELLES MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of Mrs. Helen Lyle Gemmell, of 18, Westonlee Terrace, Dumbarton.
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