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jamiemcginlay



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:44 pm    Post subject: Cumbrae Reply with quote

Millport - Island of Cumbrae, Cunninghame District

The Island of Cumbrae war memorial in Millport stands on the seafront opposite the post office. The grey granit mercat cross style memorial by Robert Gray sculptors of Glasgow is identical in design to the Newton Mearns Memorial in Glasgow by the same company,
The memorial was unveiled on 15th October 1922.




The WWII panel:



WWI ROLL OF HONOUR:
Allan Archibald M.
Atkinson Robert
Boyd Alexander
Campbell William M
Clark Duncan
Crawford John
Ferguson Peter
Forrest Ernest L.
Forrest James A.
Forrest William S.J.
Gollan James
Gordon William
Graham James
Graham John
Hood John
Hunter Andrew
Hunter George
Hunter Neil
Lang David
Lewis William J.
Little Neil
Maley Joseph S.
Maycroft Thomas G.
McDavid Alexander
McInnes Donald
McKean William
McLauchlin Daniel
Paton Alexander
Paton John G.
Paton Robert
Pickett Joseph
Rae John
Rae William
Seaton Henry L.
Shearer Alexander G.
Sinclair Archibald K.
Sinclair Frederick B.
Stuart James
Taylor Robert
Turnbull George K.
Waddell James
Weir Duncan



WWII ROLL OF HONOUR:
Allan Hugh
Elliott William
Frame James M.P.
Graham William
Hamilton Graham
Hunter H. Laird
Hunter Thomas
Kennedy John
MacDonald John M.M.
McConnochie J. Hunter
McDavid Joseph
McDavid Kenneth McK.
McLachlan James
Neil Alexander
Sharp W. Clark
Smith Robert
Taylor Robert
Walker Alexander
Wright Norman


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the heads. An unusual addition to a memorial.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:38 am    Post subject: Millport WM Reply with quote

I have not yet seen the Newton Mearns memorial.

This memorial certainly looks similar to the memorial in Govan outside Govan Old Parish church. That memorial also has heads looking out from the front face of the memorial just below a set of 'battlements'

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for the record, both the Isles of Big & Little Cumbrae were in the County of Bute during the Great War. I assume they were "traded" to Ayrshire during one of the shape-ups.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Scotsman – 19 August 1946

    MILLPORT WAR MEMORIAL UNVEILED.

    At a remembrance day service at Millport yesterday, Colonel C. MacLeod Robertson unveiled a panel in the 1914-1918 -war memorial bearing the names of 17 local men who lost their lives in the second world war. Owing to the wet weather the main service was held in the Town Hall prior to the short ceremony at the memorial.


CSMMo wrote:
Just for the record, both the Isles of Big & Little Cumbrae were in the County of Bute during the Great War. I assume they were "traded" to Ayrshire during one of the shape-ups.


The Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973 put Arran and the Cumbraes into Strathclyde Region, Cunninghame District. Ayrshire didn't exist for the duration of the Regions and Districts - it was split into four disticts within Strathclyde Region - Cunninghame, Kilmarnock & Loudon, Kyle & Carrick, and Cumnock & Doon Valley. The remainder of the county of Bute (the Isle of Bute) was placed in Strathclyde Region, Argyll District.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks ADP for the article and the information. Col. Macleod Robertson was originally from Millport, had quite a bit to do with Rothesay and Largs getting the two sections of the Bute Mountain Battery in 1908 upon the formation of the Territorial Force and everything to do with the Brigade Headquarters (4th Highland (Mountain) Brigade, RGA, TF) being located in Rothesay. Before his intervention, there was to be no TF Artillery in either place. He commanded the Brigade at mobilization but was considered too old and unfit to take the Brigade to Gallipoli with 29 Division so he was given command of the brand new Highland Divisional Ammunition Column. This old, unfit colonel turned out to be the only colonel still in command at the end of the war and, apparently still fit enough in 1946 to preside at the unveiling of the WW2 Millport War Memorial in the rain!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: Millport WM Reply with quote

alexmaclennan wrote:
I have not yet seen the Newton Mearns memorial.


This is nearly identical.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UKNIWM Ref No 17954

OS Map Ref NS 160 550
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:45 pm    Post subject: Pte. James Sawers McLachlan Reply with quote

jamiemcginlay wrote:
WWII ROLL OF HONOUR:
McLachlan James


(Glasgow Herald 17th October 1945)
"McLachlan-
Died in prisoner of war camp, Malaya, 12th July 1942, James Sawers, son of the late John McLachlan and of Mrs McLachlan, of the Golf Course, Millport.
"

CWGC
Name: McLACHLAN, JAMES SAWERS
Initials: J S
Nationality: Australian
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry
Unit Text: A.I.F. 2/18 Bn.
Age: 38
Date of Death: 11/07/1942
Service No: NX23783
Additional information: Son of John and Elizabeth McLachlan, of Isle of Cumbrae, Scotland.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 2. B. 16.
Cemetery: KRANJI WAR CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: McLACHLAN
Firstname: James
Service number: NX23783
Date of death: 11/07/1942
Other: 2/18 Bn.
SNWM roll: AUSTRALIAN MILITARY FORCES BORN IN SCOTLAND
Rank: Pte
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glasgow Herald, 25th April 1917 'Deaths on Service'
ATKINSON - Killed in action on the 9th April, Private R. Atkinson, Royal Scots (late of Whiteloch?), beloved husband of Agnes Rankin Mackay, 12 Glasgow Street, Millport.

CWGC:
R. ATKINSON
Private
Royal Scots, 9th Bn.5628
No: 352297
Date of Death: 9th April 1917
Buried: Roclincourt Valley Cemetery, II. G. 18

SNWM:
Robert ATKINSON
Private
No: 35227
Royal Scots (Lothian Regiment) 9th Bn.
Formerly 27269 Highland Light Infantry, 2/24464 T. R. Bn.
Date of Death: 9th April 1917
Additional Information: Born Glasgow. Killed in action

Soldiers 'Effects', lists number as 352297 and widow as Agnes

MIC lists number(s) as 5628 and 352297
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:21 pm    Post subject: Duncan Clark Pte GH Reply with quote

Duncan Clark Pte 291586 7th Gordon Highlanders b Millport,Bute e Edinburgh Age 19 Killed in Action F&F 04/12/1917 Son of Malcolm and Jeannie Clark, of Argyle Place, Blairmore, Argyll. Soldiers Effects: Father: Malcolm. Cambrai Memorial, Louverval M. R. 17 Panel 10 Dunoon & Millport
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:38 am    Post subject: WW1 - Pte. Robert Taylor, Royal Scots Fusiliers. Reply with quote

The Glasgow Herald, Tuesday, 13th February, 1917.
"Deaths on Service.
TAYLOR.-
Suddenly on the 9th. at Glasgow. Private Robert Taylor, R.S.F., aged 41 years, younger son of the late Provost Taylor, Millport."

SNWM - WW1
Surname TAYLOR
Forename Robert
Rank Pte
Service number 37043
Decoration
Place of birth Cumbrae Buteshire
Date of death 9 February 1917
Theatre of death Home
Cause of death Died
SNWM roll THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Unit name Unknown Unit attached to THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Other detail 10th Bn.

SDGW - Born Cumbrae; enlisted Millport.
1901 Census Butes., Cumbrae, Millport, 5 Barend Street, recorded (transcription):- Robert Taylor (25), Joiner, son, born Cumbrae; John Taylor (57), Joiner, born Renfrews., Kilbarchan; Eleanor Taylor (60), Wife, born England; siblings.
1881 Census Millport, Barend Place, records Robert Taylor (5), born Millport. 1891 Census also records his place of birth as Millport.


CWGC - TAYLOR, R.
Rank:Private
Service No: 37043.
Date of Death: 09/02/1917 Age: 41. (Died from war causes, after collapsing on Queen Street Station, Glasgow. Buried 14th February.)
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots 10th Bn. (Typist forgets 'Fusiliers'.)
Grave Reference: B. 15.
Cemetery: MILLPORT CEMETERY, CUMBRAE
Additional Information: Son of John and Eleanor Taylor, of Millport; husband of Helen Taylor, of Craigie House, Ferry Rd., Millport.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:40 pm    Post subject: Re: WW1 - Pte. Robert Taylor, Royal Scots Fusiliers. Reply with quote

A Beattie wrote:
The Glasgow Herald, Tuesday, 13th February, 1917.
"Deaths on Service.
TAYLOR.-
Suddenly on the 9th. at Glasgow. Private Robert Taylor, R.S.F., aged 41 years, younger son of the late Provost Taylor, Millport."

CWGC - TAYLOR, R.
Rank:Private
Service No: 37043.
Date of Death: 09/02/1917 Age: 41. (Died from war causes, after collapsing on Queen Street Station, Glasgow. Buried 14th February.)
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots 10th Bn. (Typist forgets 'Fusiliers'.)
Grave Reference: B. 15.
Cemetery: MILLPORT CEMETERY, CUMBRAE
Additional Information: Son of John and Eleanor Taylor, of Millport; husband of Helen Taylor, of Craigie House, Ferry Rd., Millport.


Interestingly the original Grave Registration Report shows his regiment as Royal Scots Fusiliers and his unit had already be incorrectly recorded on that form as RASC.

I'll drop CWGC a note to point out their error and hopefully they'll amend his regiment.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apanderson wrote:
Glasgow Herald, 25th April 1917 'Deaths on Service'
ATKINSON - Killed in action on the 9th April, Private R. Atkinson, Royal Scots (late of Whiteloch?), beloved husband of Agnes Rankin Mackay, 12 Glasgow Street, Millport.


Late of Whiteinch.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MALEY, JOSEPH S(TANISLAUS)
Rank: Corporal
Service No: 2719
Date of Death: 17/05/1915
Age: 22
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry "B" Coy. 9th (Glasgow Hds.) Bn.
Grave Reference: III. D. 21. Cemetery: BETHUNE TOWN CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of Thomas E. and Elizabeth Maley, of 66, Wilton St., Glasgow


Evening Time 25/5/16, p2. “Intimation has been received that Corp. Joseph Maley of the Glasgow Highlanders was killed in action at Festubers on 15th inst. Corporal Maley who was 22 years of age, was the second son of Mr Tom Maley, manager of Bradford Football Club and nephew of Mr Wm. Maley, manager of Celtic FC. He has been a member of the Glasgow Highlanders for several years, and the day before his death had been informed that he had been gazetted to a commission in the 18th HLI, now training at Gailes. Corporal Maley was educated at St. Aloysius College, Garnethill, and was employed in the Glasgow branch of Lloyd’s Insurance Company. He promised to become as noted a football player as his father and uncle, and played many fine games for the Scottish Amateurs, and several well-known junior clubs. He was struck on the head by a piece of shrapnel and died without recovering conscientiousness. He resided with his parents at 66 Wilton St.”

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/60706/MALEY,%20JOSEPH%20STANISLAUS


(The family home was in Glasgow, but they also had a house in Millport. He is also commemorated on the memorial at St. Mary Immaculate Church, Pollokshaws, Glasgow. His mother was from Pollokshaws, and his parents married in the church.)
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