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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:46 pm    Post subject: Fraserburgh civilans WW2 Reply with quote

A friend of mine has told me that FRASERBURGH (the Broch) had casualties from air raids in WW2 and he knows of FW Woolworths shop and MaConnachies factory etc being bombed with casualties Over 33 in total

Air Raids took place 13 Aug 1940
5 Nov 1940
5 April 1941
17 April 1941
26 June 1941
20 Feb 1943

some of the casualties from the bombing of 4 april 1941 at Macconnnies factory in Fraserburgh died in Aberdeen Royal Infirmary so may be listed as Aberdeen casualties

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:50 am    Post subject: General Enquiry Reply with quote

Pat

There were air raids on a number of North East towns and installations including Fraserburgh, Peterhead and Aberdeen.

If you post the details you have in the Non Commemorations section of any individuals you believe may be missing from the CWGC Civilian Roll I can check them out further.
Your first port of call should be the CWGC search.

There were 33 civilians reported by Fraserburgh burgh. As you point out, some may have died in Aberdeen.
See
http://www.cwgc.org/search/cemetery_details.aspx?cemetery=4004619&mode=1
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Newspaper report at http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/editors-choice/2010/03/13/new-book-lifts-lid-on-why-scotland-was-top-of-hitler-s-air-raid-list-86908-22108111/

regarding a book "Luftwaffe Over Scotland" by a Fraserburgh man, Les Taylor.
He gives the number of raids as Peterhead 28, Aberdeen 24, Fraserburgh 23, Edinburgh 18, Montrose 15 and Glasgow 11.

During one of the raids on Montrose one of "my" men was killed:

John Alexander Rae, Leading Aircraftsman (536791) Royal Air Force. Age 26.
Born 1914 at Crossmichael.Son of George Charles Rae and of Jane Muir (Bickett) Rae; step-son of Florence Annie (Dale) Rae of Greenlaw, Crossmichael.
Killed on active service 25 October 1940 during an bombing raid on RAF Montrose and buried in Crossmichael Parish Churchyard (CWG)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derek (Delboy) has just produced a list of the civilian casualties from the Fraserburgh WM - see http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/warmemscot-ftopic1715-0-asc-60.html (page 13)

Of the 33 casualties on CWGC for Fraserburgh, 7 are not listed on the memorial. It appears that they died there but were not "of" Fraserburgh.

Cruickshank, James and Jessie - 5/11/1940
Kemp, David H - 5/11/1940
McLeod, Katie D - 17/4/1941
Rogan, John J - 5/11/1940
Stewart, John P - 5/11/1940
Wilson, Thomas C - 5/11/1940

Of the 34 casualties on th WM, 8 are listed elsewhere by CWGC (mainly Aberdeen)

Birnie, James - 8/11/1940 Aberdeen Royal Infirmary
Chalmers, May T and Norma M - 29/1/1942 Rosehearty
Dunbar, Millicent - 18/4/1941 Aberdeen Sick Childrens Hospital
Dunbar, Jess A - 6/4/1941 Aberdeen Royal Infirmary
Michael, Christian - 6/4/1941 Aberdeen Royal Infirmary
Ralph, Mary - 14/8/1940 Aberdeen Royal Infirmary
Ralph, Thomas - No Date, Aberdeen
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ken

These civilians are not listed as Aberdeen. They died in Aberdeen and so that means that Aberdeen was the Reportiny Authority in these cases. Burial details are not given for civilians, all that CWGC were required to do was maintain the Roll of Civilian Dead from information provided to them.

The Chalmers sisters are not stated to be in Rosehearty Cemetery, they died in the town and Rosehearty reported the deaths. It was bombed more than once.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite right Jim. I was using Aberdeen as a kind of "short-hand" I didn't mean to imply they casualties were buried there. Confused
Rosehearty Cemetery was mistake. Embarassed Now corrected.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many (most?) of the civilians listed died as a result of the air raid of 5 November 1940. Some detail is at http://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/LocalHistory/archives/loc_onlineexhibitionschoollifeairraids2.asp
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