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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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According to the Return of Warrant Officers, NCO's and Men in the minor records of Scotlands People, Pte. Caddis was killed in action in France or Belgium on 26/8/14. In the same hand on the same page, a Pte. Angus Mackenzie is recorded as having died on 25 October 1914. while a prisoner of war and the location is recorded Hanbourden? in Germany.
This would infer that if they had information of Pte. Caddis having died as a prisoner, it would have been recorded.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Partial service record of David Caddis survives on Ancestry but it's not in good condition. Here are two relevant entries;



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you gents. I guess you can't believe all you read in the papers.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Brown wrote:
Thank you gents. I guess you can't believe all you read in the papers.

Adam


What! I'm so disillusioned.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:52 pm    Post subject: Pte. James Caddis Reply with quote

WW1
ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Caddis, James

CWGC
CADDIS, JAMES
Rank: Private
Service No: 34973
Date of Death: 23/04/1917
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers 2nd Bn.
Panel Reference: Bay 5.
Memorial: ARRAS MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: CADDIS
Forename: James
Rank: Pte
Service number: 34973
Place of birth: Ayr
Date of death: 23 April 1917
Theatre of death: F&F
SNWM roll: THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Other detail: 2nd Bn.

I wonder how James Caddis is related to David? Gotta be as they are the only two with that surname on CWGC and they're both on this memorial.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:05 pm    Post subject: Pte. James Caddis Reply with quote

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In the same hand on the same page, a Pte. Angus Mackenzie is recorded as having died on 25 October 1914. while a prisoner of war and the location is recorded Hanbourden? in Germany.


This might well be Haubourdin, near Lille.

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I've seen that before where a death in hospital whilst a PoW was said to have been in Germany in a newspaper, when in fact it happened in a German hospital in occupied territory.

True. Most likely be the case here. Areas behind the German lines under their control were in effect part of Germany at the time.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:58 am    Post subject: Pte. William McLarty Reply with quote

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McLarty, William

(Glasgow Herald 30th June 1915)
"Private William McLarty, 2nd H.L.I., son of a Mr & Mrs McLarty, 45 High Street, Ayr, who was wounded on June 2, has died in King George's Hospital, London. He went to France with his regiment at the beginning of the war. Before joining the Army four years ago he was employed at Wallacetown Sawmill, Ayr. He was 22 years of age. Two of his brothers are in the Army."

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McLARTY, WILLIAM
Rank: Private
Service No: 11814
Date of Death: 24/06/1915
Age: 22
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry 2nd Bn.
Grave Reference: Screen Wall. 89. 31914.
Cemetery: NUNHEAD (ALL SAINTS) CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of Malcolm and Marian McLary, of 45, High St., Ayr.

SNWM
Surname: McLARTY
Forename: William
Rank: Pte
Service number: 11814
Place of birth: Ayr
Date of death: 24 June 1915
Theatre of death: F&F
Cause of death: Died of wounds.
SNWM roll: THE HIGHLAND LIGHT INFANTRY
Other detail: 2nd Bn.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:00 pm    Post subject: Pte. William E. Saunders Reply with quote

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ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Saunders, William E.

(Glasgow Herald 2nd july 1915)
"Private William Saunders, 1st Royal Scots Fusiliers, whose wife and family reside at Church Street, Ayr, has died of wounds in hospital at Dover. He held the South African medal with various clasps. Before the war he had been in the employment of the Ayr Corporation for 12 years. He was 40 years of age."

CWGC
SAUNDERS, W
Rank: Private
Service No: 7305
Date of Death: 28/06/1915
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers 2nd Bn.
Grave Reference: F. 19905.
Cemetery: AYR CEMETERY, AYRSHIRE

SNWM
Surname: SAUNDERS
Forename: William
Rank: Pte
Service number: 7305
Place of birth: Ayr
Date of death: 28 June 1915
Theatre of death: F&F
Cause of death: Died of wounds.
SNWM roll: THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Other detail: 2nd Bn.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:46 pm    Post subject: Ayr Memorial - Lieutenant Robert Frank Fergusson Reply with quote

The Irvine and Fullarton Times July 31, 1915
"MR R .F. FERGUSON. 1/5TH R.S.F.
AYR
Lieutenant Robert Frank Fergusson, 1/5th Royal Scots Fusiliers(Territorial Force), son of Mr David Fergusson, solicitor, Ayr, was killed in action at the Dardanelles on July 12, the official intimation has been received. Lieutenant Fergusson, who was 22 years age, served his apprenticeship to the law with his father, and when war broke out he was in the office of Messrs Russel and Duncan, solicitors, 103 St. Vincent St, Glasgow. During the two years he was in Glasgow he completed his law course for the B.I. degree, and had passed three of the examinations. In September he joined the 1/5th R.S.F., as second lieutenant, and at the end of that month he was promoted to lieutenant. He left with his regiment for the Dardanelles on May 20. Lieutenant Fergusson was a distinguished student at Ayr Academy and was a prize taker in the Scots Law and the mercantile law classes at Glasgow University"
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:11 am    Post subject: Pte. 202796 Hugh Ramsay. Cameronians (Scottish Rifles). Reply with quote

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Surname RAMSAY
Forename H
Rank Pte
Service number 202796
Decoration
Place of birth Ayr
Date of death 20 September 1917
Theatre of death France
Cause of death Unknown
SNWM roll THE CAMERONIANS (SCOTTISH RIFLES)
Unit name Unknown Unit attached to THE CAMERONIANS SCOTTISH RIFLES
Other detail 9th Bn.

CWGC - RAMSAY, Hugh
Rank: Private.
Service No: 202796.
Date of Death: 20/09/1917. Age: 33.
Regiment/Service: Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) 9th Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 68 to 70 and 162 and 162A. (Stone 69 A.)
Memorial: TYNE COT MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Husband of Alice Ramsay, of 61, Content St., Ayr.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:37 pm    Post subject: WW1 - Pte. 241510 Thomas Orr Leith - R.S.F. Reply with quote

The Glasgow Herald, Monday, 30th. April, 1917. "Deaths on Service. LEITH.- Suddenly at Catterick Camp, Yorks., Private Thomas Leith, of 2, Tayfield (sic) Place, Ayr."

SNWM - WW1
Surname LEITH
Forename Thomas Orr
Rank Pte
Service number 241510
Decoration
Place of birth Ayr
Date of death 27 April 1917
Theatre of death Home
Cause of death Died
SNWM roll THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Unit name Unknown Unit attached to THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Other detail 4th (Res.) Bn.

CWGC - LEITH, Orr (sic) They have left out his Christian name.
Rank: Private.
Service No: 241510.
Date of Death: 27/04/1917. Age: 32.
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers 4th Bn.
Grave Reference: 21. 4.
Cemetery: HIPSWELL (ST. JOHN) CHURCHYARD
Additional Information: Son of Joseph and Agnes Leith; husband of Margaret C. Leith, of 2, Tryfield Place, Hawkhill, Ayr.

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/408936/LEITH,%20ORR
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:59 pm    Post subject: WW1 - Lieut. George T. Morris, R.H.A. att. R.F.C. Reply with quote

The Glasgow Herald, Tuesday, 1st. May, 1917. "Death on Service. MORRIS.- Reported missing on the 11th April and later reported killed in action on that date, George Tod Morris, aged 23 years, Lieut. R.H.A., attached Royal Flying Corps, youngest son Mr. and Mrs. James A. Morris, Savoy Croft, Ayr."

CWGC - MORRIS, George Tod
Rank: Lieutenant.
Date of Death: 11/04/1917. Age: 23.
Regiment/Service: Royal Flying Corps 59th Sqdn. and Royal Horse Artillery
Grave Reference: III. C. 10.
Cemetery: ORCHARD DUMP CEMETERY, ARLEUX-EN-GOHELLE
Additional Information: Son of James Archibald and Elizabeth Morris, of Savoy Croft, Ayr.

Grave Registration ticket from 1921 records 57th Sqd. R.F.C. (not 59th as above.) Earlier Burial Concentration document records 57th. Sqd. likewise. CWGC misread?

Headstone schedules record Mr. James A. Morris, Wellington Chambers, Ayr.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:39 am    Post subject: Re: WW1 - Lieut. George T. Morris, R.H.A. att. R.F.C. Reply with quote

A Beattie wrote:


Grave Registration ticket from 1921 records 57th Sqd. R.F.C. (not 59th as above.) Earlier Burial Concentration document records 57th. Sqd. likewise. CWGC misread?


Airmen Died in the Great War "Lt G T Morris and Lt J M Souter, 59 Sqn, Kia in RE8 A4190 WF".

59 Sqn were equipped with RE8s whereas 57 Sqn were equipped with FE2ds and later Airco DH4s so it was certainly a 59 Sqn aircraft.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:41 pm    Post subject: David Chalmers Reply with quote

David Chalmers Lance Corporal S/8855 2nd Bn. Gordon Highlanders b Waterside,Ayrshire e Ayr Age 18 Killed in Action Pas de Calais, France 25/09/1915 Soldiers Effects: Mother: Annie. Soldiers Will 4 Pages. Loos Memorial M. R. 19 Panel 115 to 119
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Hugh Clancy Private S/8894 2nd Bn. Gordon Highlanders e Ayr Killed in Action West-Vlaanderen, Belgium 04/10/1917 Soldiers Effects. Tyne Cot Cemetery B 125 Plot XXXI Row F Grave 15
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