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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GEORGE COUNTER is also listed on the Carsphairn Memorial in Kirkcudbrightshire.
He is listed here with his brother RICHARD COUNTER and were two of the five sons of Sergeant Major George Counter of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders and of Elizabeth (McKenzie) Counter.
George (S/3308) and Richard (S/3309) 2nd A&SH obviously enlisted together but George had served previously, joining the Argylls in 1902 as a boy bandsman age 15.
Sgt. Major George Counter died in 1898 in Stirling and two of his sons, George and James were sent to the Royal Military School in Chelsea.
Bandsman (9437) James Counter A&SH was awarded the DCM for his actions as a stretcher-bearer during Jan-Mar 1915.
George was killed on the Somme 20/7/1916 while Richard, who also served with the Gordons (S/19280), died from influenza on 2/2/1919 while with the 16th London Regt. (556634) and is buried in Cologne.
On his re-enlistement in August 1914 at Stirling, George gave his occupation as a "waiter" (thanks to Anne A for that) which may explain his address on the local RoH as the Salutation Hotel, Carsphairn.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at the MIC index for "Counter" and "Argyll" it seems that the oldest brother William served as a Pte & Sgt (S/2673) and the youngest, Charles, as Pte (1114).
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stirling Central Library have sent to me a copy of a page from the Stirling Observer dated December 25, 1915. Patriotic Stirling Families.
"The accompanying reproductions are from photographs of the five sons and son-in-law of the late Sergt.-Major Counter, 3rd Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders (the old Stirlingshire Militia) who are at present time in the service of their country. All the sons were born in Striling Castle where their father was about 25 years ago stationed as sergeant-major of the Militia.
Willie, the eldest son, who is quiet and retiring by nature, was for several years before enlisting in the A&SH (Kitchener's Army) a plate-layer on the railway between Stirling and Bannockburn.
George, the next son, was taken with his brother James, after the death of their father, to the Duke of York's School for Soldiers' Sons, and when old enough for boys service joined the band of the 1st A&SH. When only a lad of 14 or 15 George saw service at the South African War with the band.
James Counter (third son) joined the 1st Battalion of the A&SH at Chatham a number of years ago. He spent some time in Malta and India with his regiment and was sent to the front at the end of last year. He is an all-round sportsman and while in India won medals for both football and cricket. He was always a great favourite with the men, by whom he was familiary known as "Sunny Jim"
Richard (fourth son) is fairly well known in the Stirling District, he having been for three years under-footman with Mr. Crum, late of Auchenbowie. He enlisted in the A&SH shortly after the outbreak of war.
Charles, the youngest son, was in the 2nd A&SH at Fort George and left there in August last with his regiment for the fighting line. He was amongst the first of the "kilties" to land in France, and is now a prisoner in Germany.
George Thain [husband of the oldest child, Sarah Counter] had no previous military training before joining Kitchener's Army in August last. He was drafted from Stirling Castle to Woolwich, then out to the front with the 1st A&SH. He was a plate layer and resided at Springfield Place."

In 1911 William and George, both railway surfacemen, were boarding with George and Sarah Thain. Charles (16) was with his mother and two younger sisters.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:25 pm    Post subject: CSM. Joseph H. Dent Reply with quote

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J.H. Dent

(Glasgow herald 8th September 1920)
"In loving memory of Coy. Sergt-Major Joseph H. Dent, 14th A.&.S.H. killed in France, 8th September 1918, elder son of Mr & Mrs Joseph Dent, Station House, Houston."

Not listed on the memorials at Bonnybridge or Houston.

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DENT, J
Rank: Company Serjeant Major
Service No: 350128
Date of Death: 07/09/1918
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders 14th Bn.
Grave Reference: III. A. 12.
Cemetery: BIRR CROSS ROADS CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: DENT
Firstname: Joseph
Service Number: 350128
Date Death: 07/09/1918
Place of birth: Bonnybridge Stirlingshire
Other: 14th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Rank: C.S.M.
Theatre of death: F.& F.

Listed on Lodge St. Andrew No. 176, Roll of Honour, Denny & (Denny)Loanhead.

See:
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=7564



Listed on Cumbernauld Civic Memorial, see:
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=230&highlight=cumbernauld

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Born Bonnybridge, Resided Cumbernauld, Enlisted Denny.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:12 pm    Post subject: Pte. Michael Cairney Reply with quote

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Cairney, Mich.

(Glasgow herald 3rd May 1915)
"Private Michael Cairney, Seaforth highlanders (?), has been killed in action. He was a painter to trade and lived in Bow Street, Stirling."

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CAIRNEY, MICHAEL
Rank: Private
Service No: 7343
Date of Death: 16/09/1914
Age: 45
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) 1st Bn.
Panel Reference:
Memorial: LA FERTE-SOUS-JOUARRE MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Husband of Mary Cairney, of 14, Baker St., Stirling.

SNWM
Surname: CAIRNEY
Firstname: Michael
Service Number: 7343
Date Death: 16/09/1914
Place of birth: Stirling
Other: 1st Bn.
SNWM roll: THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:22 pm    Post subject: Pte. James Davidson Reply with quote

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Davidson, Jas.

Odd he died in hospital but has no known grave. Perhaps it was destroyed by later fighting?

(Glasgow Herald 3rd May 1915)
"Pioneer-Corporal James Davidson, 1/7th Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders, a native of Stirling, has died in hospital from the effect of wounds. Private Davidson, who was a joiner to trade, and resided with his widowed mother in Lower Bridge Street, had been connected with the local Territorials for about 12 years."

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DAVIDSON, JAMES
Rank: Private
Service No: 21
Date of Death: 26/04/1915
Age: 29
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders 1st/7th Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 42 and 44.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of Mrs. Davidson, of 75, Upper Bridge St., Stirling, and the late Mr. Davidson.

SNWM
Surname: DAVIDSON
Firstname: James
Service Number: 21
Date Death: 26/04/1915
Place of birth: Marykirk Stirlingshire
Other: 1/7th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:56 am    Post subject: Pte. John Copley Reply with quote

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Copley, John

(Glasgow Herlad 4th May 1915)
"Private Copley, a Stirling member of the 7th Battalion Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (Territorials), who was reported yesterday as having being wounded in the recent fighting round Ypres, has died in hospital following an operation. Private Copley, who was employed as an apprentice compositor in the town, was only 19 years of age. He was a son of Mr Richard Copley, fruiterer, Barnton Street, and resided in Bank Street."

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COPLEY, JOHN TAYLOR
Rank: Private
Service No: 1798
Date of Death: 01/05/1915
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders 7th Bn.
Grave Reference: I. F. 22A.
Cemetery: WIMEREUX COMMUNAL CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: COPLEY
Firstname: John Taylor
Service Number: 1798
Date Death: 01/05/1915
Place of birth: Dunblane Perthshire
Other: 1/7th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.

Listed on Family Gravestone in Logie Cemetery, see: (Page 3)
http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/viewtopic.php?t=242&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30&mforum=scottishwargraves
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:38 pm    Post subject: Pte. James Torrance Reply with quote

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James Torrance

Not on the memorial, probably due to his family emigrating some years before.

Canadian attestation papers

(Glasgow Herald 7th May 1915)
"The Stirling friends of Private James Torrance, of the First Canadian Contingent, have been informed that he was seriously wounded in the recent fighting around Ypres, and that he now lies in a critical condition in a British hospital in France. Private Torrance was a pupil of Stirling Territorial School before his family emigrated to Canada some years ago, his father being Mr Peter Torrance, a well-known guard on the Forth and Clyde Railway."

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TORRANCE, J
Rank: Private
Service No: 29395
Date of Death: 15/06/1915
Age: 20
Regiment/Service: Canadian Infantry 16th Bn.
Grave Reference: 235. 91200.
Cemetery: CITY OF LONDON CEMETERY AND CREMATORIUM, MANOR PARK
Additional Information: Son of Mrs. Agnes Torrance, of 1532, Chesterfield Avenue, North Vancouver, British Columbia.

SNWM
Surname: TORRANCE
Firstname: James
Service Number: 29395
Date Death: 15/06/1915
SNWM roll: CANADIAN EXPEDITIONARY FORCE
Rank: Pte
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is an excellent history of the 79th Cameron Highlanders of Canada (and the 16th CIF) at http://thequeensowncameronhighlandersofcanada.net/regiment/the_great_war.html
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:39 am    Post subject: Pte. Thomas Evans Reply with quote

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Thomas Evans

(Glasgow Herald 10th May 1915)
"Another member of the 7th Argylls, notification of whose death on the field was received on Saturday evening was Private Tom Evans, younger son of Mr John Evans, baker, Main Street, St Ninians (one of Mr Aitken's employees). Private Evans, who was 25 years of age, had about four years experience in the Army Service Corps, but on the war mobilisation of the Territorial Force he transferred to the Argylls, and went on active service with them in December. A tailor to trade, Private Evans was in the employment of Bannockburn Co-operative Society."

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EVANS, THOMAS
Rank: Private
Service No: 2275
Date of Death: 26/04/1915
Age: 25
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders 1st/7th Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 42 and 44.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of Mrs. Agnes Evans, of 7, Main St., St. Ninians, Stirling.

SNWM
Surname: EVANS
Firstname: Thomas
Service Number: 2275
Date Death: 26/04/1915
Place of birth: St Ninians Stirlingshire
Other: 1/7th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 6:19 am    Post subject: Pte. Albert Zeller Reply with quote

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Albert Zeller

(The Scotsman 12th June 1915)
"Private Albert Zeller, 1st Cameron Highlanders (reported killed), who was born in Stirling, was a son of Mr George Zeller, a German, who carried on a Pork butcher's business in Stirling. He was a joiner to trade, and enlisted last September. For a number of years he was a member of the 7th Battalion Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (T.F.)."

Born in Stirling in 1891 to George Zeller, a butcher, and Margaretha Schrof, who were marriend in Middlesborough in 1873. He was killed in action aged 23.

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ZELLER, ALBERT
Rank: Private
Service No: 3/6096
Date of Death: 09/05/1915
Regiment/Service: Cameron Highlanders 1st Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 41 and 42.
Memorial: LE TOURET MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: ZELLER
Firstname: Albert
Service Number: 3/6096
Date Death: 09/05/1915
Place of birth: Stirling
Other: 1st Bn.
SNWM roll: THE QUEEN'S OWN CAMERON HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:04 am    Post subject: Pte. John Curran Reply with quote

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Curran, John

(Glasgow Herald 15th May 1915)
"Intimation that Private John Curran of the K.O.S.B. was killed in action on April 26 has been received by his parents, who reside at 43 Lower Craigs, Stirling. Private Curran joined the Army two years ago, and was in his 22nd year."

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CURRAN, JOHN
Rank: Private
Service No: 11675
Date of Death: 26/04/1915
Age: 22
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers 2nd Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 22.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of Mrs. Rosina Curran, of 53, St. Patrick Square, Edinburgh.

SNWM
Surname: CURRAN
Firstname: John
Service Number: 11675
Date Death: 23/04/1915
Place of birth: Springside Ayr
Other: 2nd Bn.
SNWM roll: THE KING'S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:42 am    Post subject: Pte. Robert Jenkins Reply with quote

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Jenkins, Robert

(Glasgow Herald 26th May 1915)
"Information has been received in Stirling that Private Robert Jenkins, of the 1st A. and S. Highlanders, has been killed in action. Private Jenkins who was a National Reservist, volunteered for service, and was attached to the 1st Argylls. He was a compositor on "The Stirling Journal" about 40 years of age, and a prominent trade unionist, having been secretary of the Stirling Trades Council. He was a prominent bowler, and a member of the King's Park Football Club Committee. He is survived by a widow and five of a family."

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JENKINS, ROBERT
Rank: Private
Service No: S/2263
Date of Death: 11/05/1915
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders 1st Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 42 and 44.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: JENKINS
Firstname: Robert
Service Number: S/2263
Date Death: 11/05/1915
Place of birth: Stirling
Other: 1st Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:29 am    Post subject: Pte. Thomas Monteith Reply with quote

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Thomas Monteith

(The Scotsman 12th June 1915)
"Private Thomas Monteith, Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders, who resided at 32 Lower Castlehill, is unofficially reported killed. He was four and a half years in the Army. He met his death while acting as a stretcher bearer."

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MONTEITH, THOMAS AITKEN
Rank: Private
Service No: 837
Date of Death: 11/05/1915
Age: 21
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders 1st Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 42 and 44.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of the late William and Margaret Monteith. Native of Stirling.

SNWM
Surname: MONTEITH
Forename: Thomas
Rank: Pte
Service number: 837
Place of birth: Stirling
Date of death: 11 May 1915
Theatre of death: F&F
SNWM roll: THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Other detail:1st Bn.
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Peter Boyle

(The Scotsman 12th June 1915)
"Private Peter Boyle, 1st Royal Scots Fusiliers, who resided at 48 Cowane Street, is reported officially to have been killed on 22nd May. Private Boyle served in the South African campaign, for which he held the King's and Queen's medals with six bars. He was employed as a foreman platelayer at Stirling, but on the outbreak of the war he re-enlisted in the Artillery, and was afterwards transferred to his old regiment, the Royal Scots Fusiliers."

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BOYLE, PETER
Rank: Private
Service No: 15499
Date of Death: 22/05/1915
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers 1st Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 19 and 33.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: BOYLE
Forename: Peter
Rank: Pte
Service number: 15499
Date of death: 22 May 1915
Theatre of death: F&F
SNWM roll: THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Other detail: 1st Bn.
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