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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Moffat Reply with quote

You can't miss this one, smack in the middle of town.

UKNIWM Ref: 5876

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Photo from today's Dumfries and Galloway standard of the unveiling ceremony. Sorry about the poor quality of the pic, scanning newsprint is never succesful in my book, but it gives the impression.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Scotsman Newspaper on 30th November 1920, page 6 reported:
'The Moffat war memorial - the first burgh memorial to be completed in the county - was unveiled by Major Murray of Murraythwaite, M.P. for Dumfriesshire. A service was taken part in by the various ministers of the town, and addresses were given by Major Murray, Provost Huskie, and the Rev. R. Somers, B.D., parish minister. The Magistrates, Town Councillors, and burgh officials attended. The monument, which was designed by Mr. Reginald Fairlie, architect, Edinburgh, is composed of Doddington quarry freestone, the base and shaft being about 30 feet in height, the top being surmounted by the burgh crest, the flying spur, in bronze. It is in the form of a market cross, and is erected on the old historic site of the Market Cross, and bears the names of seven officers and seventy non-commissioned officers and men. The sculptor was Mr. Alexander Carrick, Edinburgh.'
More information on Alexander Carrick can be viewed here:
www.alexandercarrick.webeden.co.uk


I thought I might also post information on this man, Second Lt. Willis Binnie, H.L.I. who is listed on my local memorial in Giffnock, near Glasgow, and whose family appears to have had Moffat connections. According to The Scotsman obituary his early education was in Moffat.
Binnie David Willis
Name: BINNIE, DAVID WILLIS
Initials: D W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 9th (Glasgow Hdrs.) Bn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 27/05/1917
Additional information: Son of David Dreghorn Binnie, M.A., LL.B., and Barbara Manson Eadie Binnie, of Elwine, Giffnock, Glasgow. Educated at Warriston School, Moffat, and Glasgow Academy.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. C. 15.
Cemetery: CROISILLES BRITISH CEMETERY

Ref. The Scotsman, 04/06/1917. p.3:
'Sec. Lt. Willis Binnie, H.L.I. (killed), was the second son of Mr. and Mrs. D.D. Binnie, Elwine, Giffnock, near Glasgow. He was educated at Warriston School, Moffat, and Glasgow Academy, and before enlisting in September 1914, he was employed by Messrs. Eadie, Allan, & Co., wool merchants, Buchanan Street, Glasgow. He obtained his commission in June 1915.'
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was delighted to see this reference to David Willis Binnie who was a cousin of my Mother. Thank you. I have a copy of Ballads and Poems - by members of the Glasgow Ballad Club, published by William Blackwood and Sons in 1924 which was given to my Mother by David's Father, D D Binnie and which contains D D Binnie's beautiful poem 'To Any Father.'

Say not the boy is dead, but rather say
He's but a little farther on the way
Impatient sooner to behold the view-
At the next turning you may see it too .

Say he's a child again, early to bed,
On night's soft pillow fain to lay his head.

Say he is off to track the mountian stream
And lingers by the side in boyish dream.

Say by immortal waters now at rest
He clasps a thousand memories to his breast.

Say to his wondering quests wise angels smiling
Tell the true story of the world's beguiling.

Say on heroic task his soul is thrilling
Where noble dream hath noble deed's fulfilling.

Say to high festival he moves in state
Enfranchised, aureoled, immaculate.

Say that he feasts with comrades tried and true,
But in his heart the banquet waits for you.

Say, in the Presence, at a gentle word
He shows the wound-marks to his wounded Lord.

Say never he is dead, but rather say
He's but a little farther on the way.

D. D. Binnie.

Thanks also to this website I have been able to read the extract from the War Diary of the Highland Light Infantry to see how David actually died.

Bernard
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely poem.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks for that Bernard. Superb

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2Lt John James Borrowman is listed as RFC on the memorial but he was killed in action on 29 Aug 1918 so it should say RAF. He was a pilot with 22 Sqn and is buried at Queant Road, Buissy, France.
He was killed along with 2Lt J Amos in Bristol F2B serial E2453

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: 2nd Lt JJ Borrowman 22 Sqn RAF Reply with quote

Airmen died in the Great War : RAF section : pages 119 &

BORROWMAN, 2nd Lieut John James , 22 Sqn RAF, pilot , kia 29 august 1918 , buried Queant Road, Buissy France.

RAF : page 295: 29th August 1918:

2nd Lieut J J Borrowman and 2nd Lieut J: Amos , 22Sqn RAF, kia Bristol F2B no E2453, Western Front .

page 112 RAF :

Other info re the observer with 2nd Lieut JJ Borrowman RAF :

Amos 2nd Lieut J , 22 Sqn RAF, Observer, native of Bromley Kent, aged 18 , kia 29 Aug 1918 , buried Queant Road Buissy, France.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:16 am    Post subject: 22 Sqn RAF Reply with quote

Book written by former 22 Sqn RFC RAF Captain WFJ Harvey called "P1" In the Sky : a history of no 22 Sqn RFC & RAF in the Great War of 1914-1918

Casualties :

1918 : August

10 August 1918 : Pilot , 2Lt JJ Borrowman, wounded in action

29 August 1918: Pilot , 2Lt JJ Borrowman , Missing Killed in action

'' '' '' Obs . 2Lt J Amos , Missing Killed in action



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:22 pm    Post subject: Moffat Reply with quote

Black Watch : Officers of the Black Watch Vol 11:

McMILLAN , H D ( k) , 8th Bn BW : Lieutenant 8 January 1917 : Killed in action 19 July 1918 .

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A History of the Black Watch in the Great War 1914-1918 vol 3 New Army:

8th Bn Black Watch : Record of Service Officers : Page 80:

McMILLAN, H.D., Lieutenant , Joined 29 April 1917, Appointed Instructor Fifth Army School 3 January 1918, Killed 19 July 1918

Page 85-86 Casualties Officers :

McMILLAN, H D. , Captain , Killed in action 19 July 1918 .

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Commonwealth War Graves Commission :

McMILLAN , HUGH DOBIE ,
Lieutenant
8th Black Watch
36 years
19 July 1918

Son of Late Samuel & Elizabeth McMillan of Moffat, Dumfries shire , Husband of Ethel L McMillan of TALAWAKELLE , CEYLON

Meteren Military Cemetery France
grave ID 19

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The following has been passed on to me - it was originally circulated amongst some family history researchers I believe but I thought it would be of interest. Incidentally I make no comment about adding names (or not) to memorials as I remain neutral on the subject.

| | George Maxwell Smith is not mentioned on the Moffat War memorial but should
| be. Kitty Watkins hopes that the town of Moffat will add his name.
|
| | George's story is that he was one of Maxwell Smith and Jessie Ann
| Dalgleish's three children to be born in Moffat. The others children were
| born in Bengal, including my grandfather James Dalgleish Smith who died as a
| result of a wild boar hunting accident in 1904.
|
| | Since he was unmarried, George went to the Boer War in 1900 as a member of
| LUMSDEN Horse. He returned to Bengal and resumed as an assistant at his
| father Maxwell's indigo concerns.
|
| Seems that in 1915, George was assigned to or joined the Sherwood Foresters.
| They suffered unbelievable casualties at the SOMME in France in 1918.
| However they also fought in the Dardanelles, Egypt and India at that time.
| Much research needs to be done.
|
| | The monument at Kirkee in India includes graves in outlying areas moved
| there when the government could not maintain them properly. Just a guess,
| but it may be that George was sent back to the indigo areas to recover from
| his injuries, even though both parents were long since dead.
|
| | Many thanks,
|
| Kitty --- On Tue, 11/10/09, Kathleen Watkins wrote:
|
| | Casualty Details
| | Name:
| SMITH, GEORGE MAXWELL
| | Initials: G M
| | Nationality:
| | United Kingdom
| | Rank:
| | Lieutenant
| | Regiment/Service:
| | Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment)
| | Unit Text:
| | 10th Bn.
| | Age: 45
| | Date of Death: 13/09/1919
|
| | Additional information:
| | Son of Mr. and Mrs. Maxwell Smith, of Moffat, Dumfries and Galloway.
| | Casualty Type:
| Commonwealth War Dead
| | Grave/Memorial Reference:
| | Face D.
| | Memorial: |
| <http://www.cwgc.org/search/cemetery_details.aspx?cemetery=146500&mode=1>
| KIRKEE 1914-1918 MEMORIAL
|
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:58 am    Post subject: WW2 Flt. Engr. Philip Dicerbo Reply with quote

Another unusual name that stands out.
His parents sound very Italian to me. SNWM appear to have misspelled his surname.

CWGC
Name: DICERBO, PHILIP
Initials: P
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sergeant (Flt. Engr.)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: 582 Sqdn.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 25/07/1944
Service No: 1825388
Additional information: Son of Antonio and Pasqualina Dicerbo, of Moffat.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: South Extn. Grave 152.
Cemetery: MOFFAT CEMETERY, KIRKPATRICK, JUXTA

SNWM
Surname: DICARBO (Should be DICERBO)
Firstname: Philip
Service number: 1825388
Date of death: 25/07/1944
Place of birth: Dumfries
SNWM roll: ROYAL AIR FORCE and DOMINION AIR FORCES
Rank: Sgt
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:10 am    Post subject: Spr. Kenneth James Anderson Reply with quote

Sadly ommited from the memorial is WW2 casualty, sapper Kenneth James Anderson of the Johore Volunteer Engineers.

(Glasgow Herald 19th September 1945)
"Mrs Mary R. Anderson, of Cluden Bank, Moffat, has been advised that her husband, Kenneth James Anderson, of Permatang Estates, Johore, died in a prisoner of war camp in Thailand, on 1st October 1943."

Newspaper report and CWGC are exactly 1 month different with date of death?

CWGC
Name: ANDERSON, KENNETH JAMES
Initials: K J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sapper
Regiment/Service: Johore Volunteer Engineers
Age: 40
Date of Death: 01/09/1943
Service No: 966
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. James Anderson; husband of Mary Rutherford Anderson, of Moffat, Dumfriesshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Column 399.
Memorial: SINGAPORE MEMORIAL

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