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teddy



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: Durisdeer WM's - John Wood Reply with quote

Help needed for John Wood, from the WW2, in Royal Army Medical Corps, he is on both Durisdeer WM's and on the Church Roll of Honour.
Nothing found on him, please could anyone help?
Thanks, Teddy
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spoons



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Location: St John's Town of Dalry

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Durisdeer WM - William Carson Reply with quote

teddy wrote:
Help please with William H. Carson, Service Number 51766 from 3rdBn West Yorkshire Regiment (Prince of Wale's Own) died 20/11/1918 and has commonwealth grave in Morton (Thornhill) Cemetery, Dumfriesshire. No further details, help with DOB, parents and where and what died from please. He is on both the Durisdeer WM's
Thanks, Teddy


No service or pension record on Ancestry, not listed in De Ruvigny or SDGW. Following from CWGC
Name: CARSON
Initials: W H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: West Yorkshire Regiment (Prince of Wales's Own)
Unit Text: 3rd Bn.
Date of Death: 20/11/1918
Service No: 51766
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: G2. 6.
Cemetery: MORTON (THORNHILL) CEMETERY

His MIC shows Victory and British medals, he also served in
W Riding Regt 21541
and
Labour Corps 14536
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Durisdeer WM's - John Bell Reply with quote

teddy wrote:
Help need with John Bell, from Highland Light Infantry, he is on both WM's in Durisdeer Parish and on Roll of Honour in Dursideer Church, Nothing esle found, can anyone please help? He is From WW1
Thank you, Teddy


Name: BELL
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
Unit Text: 1st/8th Bn.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 02/11/1917
Service No: 241509
Additional information: Son of William and Annie Bell, of Upper Dalveen, Durrisdeer, Thornhill, Dumfriesshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: B. 38.
Cemetery: DEIR EL BELAH WAR CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: TELFER, ADAM
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sergeant (Flt. Engr.)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: 49 Sqdn.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 21/04/1943
Service No: 1371009
Additional information: Son of Alexander and Janet Telfer, of Durisdeer, Dumfriesshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Grave 736.
Cemetery: LEMVIG CEMETERY

and from the Lost Bombers website

Lancaster ED620 Information
Type Lancaster
Serial Number ED620
Squadron 49
X1D EA-K
Operation Stettin
Date 1 20th April 1943
Date 2 21st April 1943


Further Information
"Serial range ED303 - EE202 This aircraft was one of 620 Lancasters ordered from A.V.Roe (Chadderton) in 1941 and built from Nov42 to Jun43 as 129 Mk.1s and 491 Mk.111s, mixed, up to ED782 and all Mk.111 from Ed783 onwards. The Mk.1s were initially fitted with Merlin 20 and the Mk.111s with Merlin 28 engines. ED620 was a Mk.111 and delivered to No.49 Squadron, ex-5MU 4Apr43. ED620 took part in the Key Operation against Essen 20/21Apr43. When lost, this aircraft had a total of 29 hours. Airborne 2147 20Apr43 from Fiskerton. Hit by Flak and crash-landed 2335, between Stadil and Kolby, 12 km NNW of Ringkobing, Denmark. Sgt Anderson was mortally wounded in the crash and died within hours of being admitted to Hospital. Along with the others who were killed, he is buried in Lemvig Cemetery. Both Air Gunners receved treatment in the Luftwaffe Field Hospital at Aarhus, while Sgt Boulton was taken to a Hospital at Ringkobing. He was repatriated May44, along with other PoW's who were medically unfit. Sgt A.Anderson Inj Sgt A.Telfer KIA Sgt G.Boulton Inj Sgt W.A.Cook KIA Sgt G.J.Evans KIA Sgt W.P.Heyworth PoW Sgt G.Barclay PoW Sgt G.Barclay was interned in Camps 9C/L6/357. PoW No.42754. Sgt G.Boulton was interned in Camp L6, although injured, but was repatriated May44. No PoW No. Sgt W.P.Heyworth in L1/L6/L4, PoW No.1134. This crew was lost on its 2nd operation. "
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:14 pm    Post subject: Durisdeer WM Reply with quote

This was the FIRST war memorial for the Parish of Durisdeer, and was built by Beattie & Co, Carlisle. Ordered on 26/2/1919, log book No 2661 to cost 276 10/-, by Thomas Goodfellow. Sec and Treasurer of Durisdeer War Committee, from Encochbank, Durisdeer. Durisdeer War Committee fell out about site and names and order was cancelled, new committee formed in Dec 1920; then WM was reordered on 12/5/1921 and erected 26/10/1921and unveiled on 30/10/1921. The memorial was sent from Carlisle to Durisdeer by train and the carriage cost 19.3s.6d., and was sent to A, Carruthers, Builder, in Thornhill - who made the 8 steps; the concrete foundation which memorial placed ;and erected the memorial.
The WM has the old spelling of 'Durrisdeer' and dated 1914-1919.
It was unveiled by Mr. John Vernon.
From Jan 1921 parishioners still unhappy about site and names and a second committee forms; no records of meetings; and they unveiled a second war memorial outside Durisdeer Church on 13/11/1921, refer to site under 'Durisdeer Village'.
Information collected when visted Beattie & Co, Carlisle in July 2010.
Teddy.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:04 am    Post subject: John Shanks died 05/06/1916 Reply with quote

John Shanks born in Dumfries in 1893, was my great uncle. He died on the HMS Hampshire when the ship hit a mine off the coast of the Orkneys. He is commemorated on the War Memorial at Southsea in Hampshire, where I live. I can post a photo if anyone is interested. Can anyone help with a photo of John? Thanks Sherri
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teddy



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:09 am    Post subject: Re John Shanks Reply with quote

John was born on 5/12/1893 at Sanquhar, Dumfriesshire and his mother was Jane Jardine, no father registered; he stayed in Durisdeer and went to the Durideer School. When John killed in 1916 his mother married to Mr Shanks (no record of marriage date) and staying at Noblehill Dumfries.
John is commemroated on 'Durisdeer School Roll of Honour' which was unveiled in 1922 and when school closed in 1974 moved into Durisdeer Church. He is commemorated on WM at Dumfries town WM at St Johns. He is on SNMW and the cwgc see him at Portsmouth Naval Memorial.
He was receorded in book in 1917, by James Hendrie - 'Letters of a Durisdeer Soldier' which 'spoons' show in previous postings. In November 2011 -Gladys Cuttle - has for the 5th book of Nithsdale WM's -
'Letters of a Durisdeer Soldier, James Hendrie 1889-1916, with Additions'
cost is 15.00 each plus 2.00 P&P. To obtain send PM with details to 'Teddy'
Intersting to note on the same ship - HMS Hampshire' also killed was another John Shanks - Chief Engine Room Artifcer 2nd Class, Service No 270194, John Shanks 1875-1916 born in Glasgow.
Teddy
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:24 am    Post subject: John Shanks Reply with quote

Just looked at my file - should have looked before and see that 'The John Shanks born in Sanquhar on 1893 is not your great uncle'.
Your great uncle is the second John Shanks; John born 19/7/1875 in Glasgow his father was Robert Shanks and mother Ann Littlejohn.
John married Minnie Shanks, a native of Edinburgh and in 1916 down as staying at 46 Pains Road, Southsea, Portsmouth; hence reason why on your Southsea WM. Service No as in above posting along with on these details; but of course no photo.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:20 am    Post subject: The Two John Shanks Reply with quote

When Minid 14 - saying has John Shanks on WM at Southsea, Hampshire, one would think John Shanks No 270194 married to Minnie who stayed at 46 Pains Road would have been Great Uncle. What Minid 14 - did not say that WM talking about is the 'Portsmouth Naval Memorial' which has these two men on - Chief Engine Room Artificer 2nd Class No 270194 on grave ref 15; and Stoker 1st Class No K/27978 on grave ref 19.
Minid14- confirmed from the family tree that great uncle is in fact John Shanks born in 1893 and on Portsmouth Naval Memorial grave ref 19 - and who is from parish of Durisdeer and commemorated on the Durisdeer School roll of honour which was unveiled in 1922.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From The Scotsman, 01 November 1921.

    WAR MEMORIALS

    DURRISDEER. Durrisdeer War Memorial, which takes the form of a granite obelisk, was unveiled on Sunday by Mr John Vernon, a disabled soldier. An oration was delivered by the Rev. Gavin McKay, minister of the parish, who served during the war with the Argyll and sutherland Highlanders.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is now WMR, ex UKNIWM, memorial 72163
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