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Adam Brown
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:26 pm    Post subject: Lochaline Reply with quote

UKNIWM has recorded a memorial at Lochaline. The OS Ref locates it overlooking Loch Teacuis and quite far out of Lochaline.

This means it is probably at the end of the unclassed road which runs from the A884 past Loch Arienas. Google Maps Street View has gone half way along this road but not all the way. See here

LOCHALINE
UKNIWM Ref: 44547

Address
MORVERN
HIGHLAND
SCOTLAND

Type: CROSS
OS Map Ref: NM 660 540


Physical Description
BASE WITH SIDE WINGS AT EACH CORNER SURMOUNTED BY TAPERED SHAFT AND CROSS. INSCRIPTION ON FRONT FACE OF THE CROSS


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See http://www.mbriscoe.me.uk/page235.html

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADP wrote:
See http://www.mbriscoe.me.uk/page235.html

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See also his photos of many other war memorials.
Go to [Home] at the top of his page, then [Fort William] then [War Memorials] to see the menu list of them.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been sending up any pictures and details of memorials in Highland Council area to the HER after realising that both the HER and RCAHMS have no record of most memorials. The best comment was on the entry in Canmore for Ardgour

Quote:
The significance of this memorial remains unclear. It may be a war memorial.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 2 April 2008.


It sounds as if no one had bothered to walk up the track. When I did so it was obvious that the memorial is built on one of the mountings of the WWI Royal Marine gun battery of which Canmore said there was nothing left!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MB

Can you confirm if the location details I have given in the first post, which were taken from UKNIWN, are correct.

Thanks

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Brown wrote:
MB

Can you confirm if the location details I have given in the first post, which were taken from UKNIWN, are correct.

Thanks

Adam


I have NM 67712 44431, that looks about right when I drop on my map. I usually take a GPS reading as close as I can conveniently get, all my photographs are also Geocoded with the location where taken.

NM 660 540 is miles away!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MB

I can see it now thanks, the UKNIWM entry is not even close! It's even marked on the OS map so I should have seen it before.

I have tracked it down on Google maps Street View now.

Thanks for the confirmation.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the North of Scotland the HER maps are good because you can get to a location much faster than the RCAHMS large scale maps but often even then it can be difficult because the OS often write "Memorial" some distance from the memorial though usually OK if you go right in to the largest scale.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:31 pm    Post subject: Lochaline WM Reply with quote

I took a few photos of this memorial when I was sailing in the Sound of Mull last Year. The village of Lochaline is built on the side of a hillside that slopes down to the Loch that gives it its name. The monument overlooks the Sound of Mull about halfway up the village.

I'll post the images when I find them,

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:37 am    Post subject: Photos and Transcription of Lochaline WM Reply with quote

Lochaline WM

















This stands high on a mound at the south end of the village so it is easily seen from the Sound of Mull.

OSGB36: NM 677 444 [100m precision]
WGS84: 56:32.0604N 5:46.6834W


A 5m high pillar surmounted by a short armed cross. Constructed from 25 courses of rough dressed granite. The 2m base is trapezoidal with buttresses at each corner. The shaft and cross are square section. The inscription and names of fallen are on smooth rectangles of dressed granite. built into the courses. The inscription and 1939-45 names are on the east side of the shaft. The 1914-1919 names are on the west side of the shaft.




TO
THE GLORY OF
GOD
AND IN MEMORY
OF THE MEN OF
MORVERN
WHO GAVE
THEIR LIVES IN
THE GREAT WAR
1914-1919

Difficult to make out. Capital letters

1939-1945
JOHN GRAHAM
CAMERON LAWRIE
DONALD O’DENNIE
DONALD J LOGAN
KENNETH MACLEAN
DOUGLAS .I.. MACPHERSON
KENNETH MICHAEL
MALCOLM ROBERTSON
PETER STEWART

More easily made out. Capital letters. First name and Surname. Listed by year of death. The Gaelic quote at the bottom is in a Celtic font.

1914
ROBERT DICK
ROBERT MILES
1915
JOHN CURRIE
WILLIAM GILLIES
ROBERT MASON
DUNCAN MACCOLL
FINLAY MACPHERSON
JOHN MORRISON
1916
ALEXANDER CONNELL
HIGH CURRIE
HIGH GILLIES
ARCHIBALD MACGILLVRAY
ALEXANDER MACINTYRE
HIGH MACINTYRE
JOHN NEIL MACPHAIL
JAMES SINCLAIR
JOHN STRWART
1917
JOHN BARHAM
DOUGALL COWAN
ROBERT FLETCHER
JOHN MACARTHUR
DONALD MACDONALD
DONALD MACLEOD
PETER MULVIE
ROBERT ROSS
1918
ALLAN CAMERON
ANGUS CAMERON
DUNCAN CAMERON
JOHN CONNELL
JAMES FERGUSON
JAMES FOOTE
ALEXANDER MACKINNON
JOHN MACPHEE
DUNCAN MENZIES
JOHN ROBERTSON

THEIR NAME LIVETH
FOR EVERMORE

BITHIDH AN AINM SAN GAISGE
AIR CHUIMHNE GU BRATH
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:43 am    Post subject: WMR (ex UKNIWM) number Reply with quote

Note that WMR had duplicate reports for this memorial- 13468 and 44547. Because 13468 had the photographs attached, this is the record which has been retained (after moving some information from 44547 on to 13468, and 44547 has been disposed of.

As it happens neither report had the correct number of WW1 names

There is also 69555, which is a Roll of Honour in the Parish Church, which I don't think is on this forum.
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