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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:42 pm    Post subject: Corsock Reply with quote

WMR 5880
OS Map Ref NX 76141 76011



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UKNIWM Ref: 5880

Please note that this memorial is missnamed on UKNIWM which shows it as 'Corsock and Kirkpatrick Durham' - the modern parish. This memorial is in fact just for Corsock, there is a separate memorial for Kirkpatrick Durham which is not listed by UKNIWM but is already posted on this forum.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inscriptions might be slightly clearer on these pics, also 2 of those named on the memorial (Jessie Ballantyne and David Scott) are buried in Corsock graveyard with the typical family gravestones and accompanying rich source of info for researchers.









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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:14 am    Post subject: Memorial Transcription Reply with quote

WW1

Pte. George Bell, Australians
Lieut. Victor M. Cubitt, Norfolks
Sergt. Robert S. McGaw, Black Watch
Pte. William Logan, Black Watch
Pte. John S. Haggart, Black Watch
Pte. James Brown, A. & S.H.
Pte. Robert Straiton, South Africans
Pte. William Telfer, Australian
Pte. John Brown, A. & S.H.
Pte. John Kelly, K.O.S.B.
Pte. John Swan, Australians
Pte. Thomas Boan, R.Scots
Sergt. John C. Dunbar, Canadians
Pte. William Dunbar, K.O.S.B.
C.Q.M.S. James Weir, M.G.C.
2nd Lieut. J. Wedderburn Maxwell, K.O.S.B.
Pte. John C. Ros, K.O.S.B.
L.Cpl. David Scott, R.W.F.
Jessie Ballantyne, Q.M.A.A.C
Pte. Andrew Sweeney, R.S.F.
L.Cpl. Thomas Edgar, K.S.L.I.

WW2

Pte. Alex. Hawkins, Glasgow Highlanders
Sergt. A.W. McMorrine, 75 New Zealand Squadron R.A.F.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: BALLANTYNE
Initials: J A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Worker
Regiment/Service: Queen Mary's Army Auxiliary Corps
Date of Death: 30/07/1919
Service No: 3520
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Cemetery: CORSOCK UNITED FREE CHURCHYARD, PARTON
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It took a while Confused but it finally dawned on me that listing on the memorial is based on the date of death Idea

So that the 3 Black Watch men listed together, Sgt (S/4825) McGaw, Pte(S/4822) Logan and Pte. (S/4634) Haggart, all of the 9th Battalion died on the same day 25 September 1915 at Loos.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And if this is the second man on the list:

CUBITT, VICTOR MURRAY
Initials: V M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Norfolk Regiment
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Age: 27
Date of Death: 12/08/1915
Additional information: Son of Mr. E.G. Cubitt, J.P., and Christabel M. Cubitt, of Honing Hall, Worstead, Norwich.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 42 to 44.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL

...it possibly means that this man is the first one listed?

BELL, GEORGE
Initials: G
Nationality: Australian
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F.
Unit Text: 11th Bn.
Age: 28
Date of Death: 25/04/1915
Service No: 275
Additional information: Son of Jane McFadyean Bell. Native of Scotland.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: B. 6.
Cemetery: PLUGGE'S PLATEAU CEMETERY, ANZAC

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam - you are right on both.

Cubitt's story and his connection to Corsock is detailed at
http://stninianscastledouglas.org.uk/history/the-war-memorials/

And George Bell's service record at NA Australia makes interesting reading. It looks like his remains were identified in 1919. From 1916 he was officially missing presumed killed.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I should add that Lt Cubitt and his brother Captain Edward Randall Cubitt died on the same day. A third brother Captain Eustace Henry Cubitt, also of the 1/5th Norfolks, survived Gallipoli only to die at Gaza 19/4/1917

General Ian Hamilton's 3rd Gallipoli Despatch includes a description of the events of 12 August 1915.
In the course of the fight, creditable in all respects to the 163rd Brigade, there happened a very mysterious thing. The 1/5th Norfolks were on the right of the line, and found themselves for a moment less strongly opposed than the rest of the brigade. Against the yielding forces of the enemy Colonel Sir H. Beauchamp, a bold, self-confident officer, eagerly pressed forward, followed by the best part of the battalion. The fighting grew hotter, and the ground became more wooded and broken. At this stage many men were wounded or grew exhausted with thirst. These found their way back to camp during the night. But the Colonel, with 16 officers and 250 men, still kept pushing on, driving the enemy before him. Amongst these ardent souls was part of a fine company enlisted from the King's Sandringham estates. Nothing more was ever seen or heard of any of them. They charged into the forest, and were lost to sight or sound. Not one of them ever came back.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This story of the Sandringham men of 1/5th Norfolks was made into a TV film "All the King's Men"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0220969/

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Place names around Corsock can be confusing.
The village of Corsock was in Parton Parish and the boundry between Parton and Kirkpatrick-Durham Parishes (Urr Water) is just outside the village.
In 1855 when statutory registration was introduced a new registration district was created called Corsock Bridge to cover areas of mainly Parton but also of Kirkpatrick-Durham and even Balmaclellan.
(It roughly follows the line of todays A712 beween Crocketford and Balmaclellan)
Each entry on the Corsock Bridge registers show not only place of birth/death/etc but also which Parish. Jessie Ballantyne, for example, died at her home - Kirkwood, Corsock, Parish of Parton. The Registrar was James Weir, the schoolmaster at Corsock, who lost his son in th war.
The church in Corsock is now linked to the Kirkpatrick-Durham church but CWGC refers to it by the original name Corsock U.F. Churchyard, Parton.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:32 am    Post subject: WW1 - ALPHA Reply with quote

JESSIE BALLANTYNE, Q.M.A.A.C.
Jessie Agnes Ballantyne, Worker (3520) Queen Mary's Army Auxiliary Corps. Age 27.
Jessie volunteered for military service in October 1916 and became a Forewoman/waitress. She died of tuberculosis at her home Kirkwood in Corsock.
Born 1892 at Corsock Bridge. Daughter of James and Margaret Hamilton(McNaught) Ballantyne of Kirkwood, Corsock.
Died 30 July 1919 and buried in Corsock United Free Churchyard, Parton (CWG)


PTE. GEORGE BELL, AUSTRALIANS.
George Lavender Bell, Private (275) 11th Battalion, Australian Infantry. Age 29.
George enlisted September 1914 at Perth, Western Australia. He had been working on his uncle's farm at Coorow, north of Perth with his cousins Thomas and John Bell McGill (see below). He left from Freemantle in November 1914 for Egypt. In early March 1915 his battalion moved to the island of Lemnos and a month later received orders to prepare to make amphibious assault at Gallipoli. On 25 April the 1st Australian Division landed at ANZAC Beach. George was reported missing presumed killed that day, but in 1919 his remains were found and interred.
Born 1885 in Govan, Glasgow. Son of Jane Bell; Step-son of James McFadzean of Brighouse Farm, Corsock in Balmaclellan Parish.
Killed in action 25 April 1915 and interred in Plugge's Plateau Cemetery, Anzac, Gallipoli, Turkey.
Also named on the Balmaclellan War Memorial.
Thomas McGill, Private (6544) 16th Battalion, Australian Infantry, died on 20 August 1917 and is named on the Mochrum Parish War Memorial in Port William, Wigtownshire. John Bell McGill, survived the war but died in Whithorn in 1922.



PTE. THOMAS BOAN, R.SCOTS.
Thomas Boan, Private (42662) 2nd Battalion, Royal Scots. Formerly Private (31249) King's Own Scottish Borderers. Age 24.
Thomas was a ploughman at Barmack Farm, Corsock when he enlisted in June 1917 in the KOSB. He was posted to the 2nd Royal Scots in in France in February 1918 and suffered shrapnel wounds and a broken leg on 16 March 1918. He died of pneumonia in the 1st Canadian General Hospital.
Born 1893 at Caerlaverock, Dumfriesshire. Son of Robert and Elizabeth (Brown) Boan of Dunscore, Dumfriesshire.
Died of wounds 4 May 1918 and buried in Etaples Military Cemetery, France.
Also listed on the Dunscore War Memorial.


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PTE. JAMES BROWN, A.&.S.H.
James Brown, Private (S/7624) 11th Battalion, Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders. Age 27.
James was working with his father, a shepherd at Glaisters when he enlisted in January 1915. He joined his battalion in France in October 1915 and was killed at Hohenzollen Redoubt, Loos while rescuing his Sergeant who had been wounded while trying to repair damaged wiring in front of their position.
Born 1889 in Dalry, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of William and Elizabeth (McKay) Brown of Glaisters, Corsock.
Killed in action 5 May 1916 and buried in Vermelles British Cemetery, France.

and his cousin - They seem to have enlisted and served together.

PTE. JOHN BROWN, A.&.S.H.
John Brown, Private (S/7616) 11th Battalion, Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders. Age 30.
John was a shepherd at Dungalston, Moniaive when he enlisted in January 1915. He joined his battalion in France in October 1915 and was killed near Contalmaison.
Born 1885 in Balmaclellan, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of Robert and Janet (Dickson) Brown of Nether Monybuie, Corsock and, later, of Alloway, Ayrshire.
Killed in action 28 August 1916 and buried in London Cemetery and Extension, Longueval, Somme, France.
Also listed on the War Memorials in Balmaclellan and Moniaive.


LIEUT. VICTOR M. CUBITT, NORFOLKS.
Victor Murray Cubitt, Lieutenant: 1/5th Battalion, Norfolk Regiment. Age 27.
Victor was a land agent for a number of estates in Scotland including Corsock House. In 1911 he was a Lodger at the Temperance Inn, Corsock.
Born 1887 in Smallburgh, Norfolk. Son of Edward George and Christabel Mary (Burroughes) Cubitt of Honing Hall, Norfolk.
Missing in action 12 August 1915 and listed on the Helles Memorial, Gallipoli, Turkey.
See previous postings for more detail.


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SERGT. JOHN C. DUNBAR, CANADIANS.
John Charteris Dunbar, Private (101025) 10th Battalion, Canadian Infantry (Alberta Regiment) Age 23.
John was working on the railroad when he enlisted in July 1915 at Edmonton, Alberta. He was admitted to hospital there in February 1916 with measles so it was May before he arrived in England. He was posted to the 10th Battalion in France in January 1917 and was killed at Vimy Ridge.
Born 1893 at Glenlair, Corsock, Parton Parish. Son of James McPhearson Dunbar and Agnes (Charteris) Dunbar of Glenlair.
Missing in action on 9 April 1917 at Vimy Ridge and named on the Vimy Memorial, France.

and his brother

PTE. WILLIAM DUNBAR, K.O.S.B.
William Dunbar, Private (25069) 1st Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers. Age 30.
William was a gardener at Troquaine House, Balmaclellan when he enlisted in June 1916. He was killed near Vimy Ridge where his brother John had been killed two weeks earlier.
Born 1886 at Glenlair, Corsock, Parton Parish. Son of James McPhearson Dunbar and Agnes (Charteris) Dunbar of Glenlair. Husband of Margaret (Smith) Dunbar of Troquhaine Cottage Balmaclellan who he married in 1911 in Castle Douglas, Kelton, Kirkcudbrightshire.
Missing in action on 23 April 1917 and listed on the Arras Memorial, France and on the Balmaclellan War Memorial.


L.CPL. THOMAS EDGAR, K.S.L.I.
Not listed by CWGC - post 1921 death.
Thomas Edgar, Private (?) The King's (Shropshire Light Infantry)
Born 1900 at Corsock Bridge. Son of Joseph and Margaret (Smith) Edgar.
Died on 24 May 1923 of Tuberculosis at Areeming, Corsock Bridge, Kirkpatrick-Durham Parish.


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