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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:45 pm    Post subject: Four or more family members Reply with quote

I don't think we have had a thread on this subject before but I thought that it might be interesting to post details of families who lost four or more family members (not necessarily brothers).

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From Gatehouse of Fleet - four brothers who all died in 1917

Name: DAVIDSON, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Gordon Highlanders
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Age: 23
Date of Death: 04/01/1917
Service No: S/11730
Additional information: Son of James and Jessie Davidson, of Fleet St., Gatehouse of Fleet, Kirkcudbrightshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: D. 17.
Cemetery: COURCELLES-AU-BOIS COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION

Name: DAVIDSON
Initials: N
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 1st/5th Bn.
Age: 26
Date of Death: 13/11/1917
Service No: 240977
Additional information: Son of James and Jessie Davidson, of Fleet St., Gatehouse of Fleet, Kirkcudbrightshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: P. 26.
Cemetery: RAMLEH WAR CEMETERY

Name: DAVIDSON (verified from Stewartry Roll of Honour)
Initials: P
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots
Unit Text: 15th Bn.
Date of Death: 29/04/1917
Service No: 26974
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Joint grave. H. 7.
Cemetery: DOUAI COMMUNAL CEMETERY

Name: DAVIDSON
Initials: R T
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Canadian Infantry (British Columbia Regiment)
Unit Text: 29th Bn.
Age: 26
Date of Death: 05/05/1917
Service No: 75680
Additional information: Son of James and Jessie Davidson, of Fleet St., Gatehouse, of Fleet, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: VII. H. 26.
Cemetery: ORCHARD DUMP CEMETERY, ARLEUX-EN-GOHELLE
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Clayton brothers from Hawick:

Name: CLAYTON, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Queen's Own (Royal West Kent Regiment)
Unit Text: 10th Bn.
Age: 41
Date of Death: 04/08/1917
Service No: 17058
Additional information: Son of Thomas and Jemima Clayton of Hawick, Roxburghshire; husband of A. M. Clayton, of 87, Tennyson Avenue, Scarborough.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: XVII. G. 5.
Cemetery: LIJSSENTHOEK MILITARY CEMETERY

Name: CLAYTON, JOSEPH
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Date of Death: 14/11/1914
Service No: 7767
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 38.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

Name: CLAYTON, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Gordon Highlanders
Unit Text: 8th/10th Bn.
Age: 20
Date of Death: 17/06/1916
Service No: S/12389
Additional information: Son of Mrs. J. Clayton, of 1, Teviot Row, Wiensland, Hawich, Roxburghshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. C. 9.
Cemetery: VERMELLES BRITISH CEMETERY

CLAYTON, RICHARD, Sergeant , no.9113, HLI.
Died at home 25/12/16.
Possible non CWGC commemoration. And HLI firing party attended his funeral.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Douglas brothers of Selkirk and Hawick:

Name: DOUGLAS, GEORGE
Initials: G
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Tank Corps
Unit Text: "E" Bn.
Age: 40
Date of Death: 20/11/1917
Service No: 93045
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. James Douglas, of Is, Green Terrace, Selkirk; husband of Lydia E. Douglas (nee Chaplin), of 13, West Mayfield, Edinburgh.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 13.
Memorial: CAMBRAI MEMORIAL, LOUVERVAL


Name: DOUGLAS
Initials: T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Gunner
Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text: 310th Bde.
Date of Death: 15/04/1917
Service No: 776624
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. K 6.
Cemetery: H.A.C. CEMETERY, ECOUST-ST. MEIN


Name: DOUGLAS, JOHN SANDERSON JARDIN
Initials: J S J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Age: 25
Date of Death: 13/10/1914
Service No: 10225
Additional information: Son of James and Agnes Douglas, of 15, Green Terrace, Selkirk.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 15.
Memorial: LE TOURET MEMORIAL


Name: DOUGLAS
Initials: J H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders
Unit Text: 3rd Bn.
Date of Death: 17/10/1918
Service No: S/1724
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: A. 332.
Cemetery: SELKIRK (SHAWFIELD) CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting why specific family CWGC entries carry a different amount of personal information - I would have thought that each family would have listed as much information as possible.

Also note some minor inaccuracies on the CWGC entries caused by scanning errors in modern times.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: 5 Tocher Brothers all with the same Regiment Reply with quote

Tocher George A/cpl 1198 1st Gordon Highlanders b Woodside, Aberdeen e Dunfermline Age 21 Died of Wounds F & F 08-May-15 Son of Peter & Elspet Tocher, Aberdeen. City Roll of Honour:Charlotte St; La Clytte Military Cemetery, Reninghelst B 021 Plot I Row D Grave 13

Tocher James Pte 10931 8/10th Gordon Highlanders b Aberdeen e Dunfermline Age 18 Killed in Action F & F 31-Jul-16 Son of Peter & Elspet Tocher, Aberdeen. City Roll of Honour: Hutcheon St; Thiepval Memorial M. R. 21 Pier 15B & 15C

Tocher John Pte 3/5147 1st Gordon Highlanders b Woodside, Aberdeen e Aberdeen Age 26 Killed in Action F & F 18-Jul-16 Son of Peter & Elspet Tocher, Aberdeen. City Roll of Honour: 27 Charles St; Thiepval Memorial M. R. 21 Pier 15B & 15C
Tocher Peter Pte 7596 1st Gordon Highlanders b Woodside, Aberdeen Died 30-Oct-23 Son of Peter & Elspet Tocher, Aberdeen. City Roll of Honour: Hutcheon St;

Tocher Robert Pte 5014 4th Gordon Highlanders b Old Machar e Aberdeen Age 34 Died of Wounds F & F 15-Nov-16 Son of Peter & Elspet Tocher, Aberdeen. City Roll of Honour: 27 Charles St; Forceville Communal Cemetery Extension Fr 0002 Plot III Row D Grave 8
Peter Tocher Snr also served and was the one given the honour to place the roll of honour in the shrine at the war memorial.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:49 pm    Post subject: 4 Reid brothers on Udny Green Memorial Reply with quote

Reid Alexander Pte 192584 15th Canadian Inf (Central Ontario Regt) b Aberdeen 11/09/1892 Age 24 Died of Wounds F & F 19-Apr-17 Son of William & Mary (nee Cruickshank) Reid, Woodside Disblaire, Newmachar. 3 Brother also died James Robert & William. 1891 Census 249A/4/18/35:Tillymaud Cottage:age 6 mo.
1901 Census :249A/2/9/37:Orchardton (b Udny) age 10.
Canadian Records:Occ: Teamster. Aubigny Communal Cemetery Extension Fr 0095 Plot II Row B Grave 79

Reid James Pte 34435 14th Royal Warwickshire Regt b Aberdeen 02/08/1888 e Aberdeen Age 29 Died of Wounds F & F 01-Jun-18 Son of William & Mary (nee Cruickshank) Reid, Woodside Disblair, Newmachar. 3 Brother also died Alexander Robert & William. Formerly 43013 RASC.1891 Census 249A/4/18/35:Tillymaud Cottage: age 2.1901 Census :249A/2/9/37:Orchardton: age 12 B Cruden. Les Baraques Military Cemetery, Sangatte Fr 0065 Plot IV Row A Grave 12A ID

Reid Robert L/cpl 240584 5th Gordon Highlanders b Tarves 18/05/1895 e Ellon Age 20 Killed in Action F & F 13-Nov-16 Son of William & Mary (nee Cruickshank) Reid, Woodside, Disblair, Newmachar, Aberdeenshire. 1891 Census 249A/4/18/35:Tillymaud Cottage: parents.
1901 Census :249A/2/9/37: Orchardton: Age 5 Thiepval Memorial M. R. 21 Pier 15B & 15C


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:52 pm    Post subject: 4th Brother Reply with quote

Reid William Pte 241462 4th Gordon Highlanders b Udny 28/09/1890 e Peterhead Age 26 Killed in Action F & F 13-Jul-17 Son of William & Mary (nee Cruickshank) Reid, Woodside, Disblair, Newmachar, Aberdeenshire. Date maybe 14th.
1891 Census 249A/4/18/35:Tillymaud Cottage: age 6mo.
1901 Census :249A/2/9/37:Orchardton: age 10. Essex Farm Cemetery, Boesinghe B 073 Plot I Row B Grave 1 Newmachar & Udny Green Photo taken 2003 Nov
Although the details of birth vary there are a set of twins included here
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:03 pm    Post subject: 4 Taylor brothers on Torphins Memorial Reply with quote

Taylor Alexander Pte 266933 1st Gordon Highlanders b Kincardine O'Neil 20/03/1895 e Tarland Age 23 Killed in Action F & F 29-Aug-18 Son of Francis & Mary Taylor, Norton Cottage, Kincardine O' Neil, Aberdeenshire. School records : Tollhouse.
MI 208. VR 18/19 Francis, Gardener, Old Toll House & Mary. H A C Cemetery, Ecoust-St Mein Fr 0568 Plot III Row J Grave 3

Taylor George Hunter Cpl 29086 14th Highland Light Infantry b Torphins 17/07/1890 e Aberdeen r Coull by Aboyne Age 26 Killed in Action F & F 23-Aug-16 Son of Francis & Mary Taylor, Norton Cottage, Kincardine O'Neil, Aberdeenshire. MI 208 1891 3/7/29. 1901 Census Beltie Terrace. Formerly 23378 Scot. Rif. Lens Eastern Communal Cemetery Fr 0779 Grave 22

Taylor Herbert Charles L/cpl 290456 7th Gordon Highlanders b Kincardine O'Neil 13/05/1897 e Banchory Age 20 Killed in Action F & F 20-Nov-17 6th Son of Francis & Mary Taylor, Norton Cott; Kincardine of Neil, Aberdeenshire. Also The Tollhouse, Kincardine O'Neil. MI also George 21-9-16 Age 26 Alexander age 23 30-8-18 James age 30 14-2-19. Orival Wood Cemetery, Flesquieres Fr 1498 Plot I Row D Grave 5 ADJ 03-12-17 RoH page 4 Col 3 Torphins

Taylor James Melvin Pte M2/148829 NZ Army Service Corps RASC b Torphins 19/07/1888 Age 30 Died Germany 14-Feb-19 Son of Francis Taylor, Toll House, Kincardine O'Neil. He was chauffeur at Parkhill House, Dyce. 3 brother also died. Husband of Elizabeth Main Reid (formerly Taylor), The Smithy, Rathven, Buckie, Banffshire. Left widow & 2 children who resided at Viewfield, Glastone Pl; Dyce. Cologne Southern Cemetery, Germany Gy 1 Plot II Row C Grave 2 Dyce & Torphins
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John McFarlane of Kingholm Quay and his 3 sons - also on Dumfries memorial

Name: McFARLANE
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Defence Corps
Unit Text: 32nd Protection Coy.
Age: 51
Date of Death: 29/05/1917
Service No: 13821
Additional information: Husband of Annie Fox McFarlane, of Kingholm Quay, Dumfries.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: D. 63.
Cemetery: DUMFRIES (ST. ANDREW'S) ROMAN CATHOLIC CEMETERY

Name: McFARLANE
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Date of Death: 06/05/1915
Service No: 6727
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 22.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

Name: McFARLANE, MARTIN
Initials: M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 6th Bn.
Age: 30
Date of Death: 30/09/1915
Service No: 12160
Additional information: Son of Mrs. McFarlane, of Kingholm Quay, Dumfries.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. J. 26.
Cemetery: WIMEREUX COMMUNAL CEMETERY

Name: McFARLANE, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lance Corporal
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 7th/8th Bn.
Age: 31
Date of Death: 03/07/1916
Service No: 15896
Additional information: Son of Mrs. Annie McFarlane, of Kingholm Quay, Dumfries.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: IV. F. 23.
Cemetery: VERMELLES BRITISH CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:33 pm    Post subject: Douglas brothers of Selkirk and Hawick Reply with quote

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The Is instead of 15 error in George Douglas's record should be resolved in due course.

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Interesting why specific family CWGC entries carry a different amount of personal information - I would have thought that each family would have listed as much information as possible.

The details given for T Douglas and JH Douglas contain only the information supplied by the Army. For some reason the NOK have not returned the Verification Forms.

I looked at the case of Richard Clayton and see no prospect at all of him being accepted as a non comm. He clearly did not have the cause of his death (T.B.) when discharged.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter Davidson has no next of kin (or first name) given but I have been able to verify that it is the same man from the Gatehouse of Fleet memorial, family gravestone and Stewartry Roll of Honour.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=651&highlight=haddington

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This week's East Lothian Courier has an article regarding the five brothers from Haddington from one family lost in the First World War.

http://www.eastlothiancourier.com/articles/1/33735

Name: CRANSTON, ALEXANDER
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers
Unit Text: 84th Field Coy.
Date of Death: 26/03/1918
Service No: 103604
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 10 to 13.
Memorial: POZIERES MEMORIAL

Name: CRANSTON, JOHN BUCHAN
Initials: J B
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Company Serjeant Major
Regiment/Service: Cameron Highlanders
Unit Text: 7th Bn.
Age: 34
Date of Death: 16/07/1916
Service No: 5651
Additional information: Husband of Agnes Cranston, of Sunnybank Cottage, Bridgend, Bathgate.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: IV. G. 7.
Cemetery: VERMELLES BRITISH CEMETERY

Name: CRANSTON
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Driver
Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text: 51st Div. Ammunition Col.
Date of Death: 25/07/1918
Service No: 648910
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: XVII. D. 2.
Cemetery: TERLINCTHUN BRITISH CEMETERY, WIMILLE

Name: CRANSTON
Initials: J B
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sapper
Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers
Age: 28
Date of Death: 18/05/1916
Service No: 69417
Additional information: Husband of Annie Wallace (formerly Cranston), of 9, Court St., Haddington.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: D. 76A.
Cemetery: HADDINGTON CEMETERY

Name: CRANSTON, ADAM LINDSAY
Initials: A L
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Age: 30
Date of Death: 13/11/1916
Service No: 40808
Additional information: Son of Elizabeth Cranston, of St. Martin's Gate, Haddington, East Lothian, and the late Alexander Cranston; husband of Margaret Cranston, of Station Rd., Slamannan, Stirlingshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. B. 23.
Cemetery: SERRE ROAD CEMETERY No.1

Here is the family group in the 1891 and 1901 censuses.

1891 census - Haddington
Alexander Cranston 36
Elizabeth Cranston 35
Alexander Cranston 12
John Cranston 9
William Cranston 7
Agnes H Cranston 5
James B Cranston 3
Adam Cranston 2
Mary Ann Cranston 3mo

1901 census - Haddington
Alexander Cranston 47
Elizabeth Smith Cranston 46
William Cranston 17
James Buchan Cranston 13
Adam Lindsay Cranston 11
Mary Ann Cranston 9
George Mc Lean McLean Cranston 8
Andrew Cowans Cranston 6
Agnes Cranston 5
Robert Cranston 1

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know that it's less than four but Kirkton (D&G) WW2 memorial has what appears to be three brothers
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1565

It's that they are WW2 casualties that struck me. Unusual?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:43 pm    Post subject: 4 Brothers 3 died in WWI and sadly 1 died in WWII Reply with quote

Neilson Charles CSM 2284 5th Gordon Highlanders b Ellon 27/11/1889 e Peterhead Age 26 Killed in Action F & F 01-Jun-16 Son of James & Christina (nee Hadden) Neilson, 7 Station Rd; Ellon, Aberdeenshire. City Roll of Honour : Stotfield Lossiemouth. Born Montrose. Voters 18/19 James (Postman) & Christina. Bertie C (a) Postman. Roll of Service in the Great War : page 29 : photo. Aberdeen University Book of Remembrance. Brothers Rolland & James also Killed. Maroeuil British Cemetery Fr 0015 Plot I Row F Grave 6 EE 14/6/16 :Photo ADJ 7/6/16 P7 AFC & Ellon

Neilson James Hadden Sjt 226018 10th Cameron Highlanders b Montrose e Bukden, Huntingdon r Ellon Age 29 Died Malarial Fever Salonika 28-Oct-17 Son of James Neilson Senior Postman & Christina (nee Hadden) Neilson, 7 Station Rd; Ellon, Aberdeenshire. City Roll of Honour : Lovat Scouts: 94 Rosemount Pl; Aberdeen. Born Montrose. Voters 18/19 James (Postman) & Christina. Bertie C (a) Postman. Formerly 4310 Lovat Scouts. Brother of Charles & Rolland also died. Previously employed on the staff of Huntly Post Office. Was a keen sportsman and excelled as a footballer. Kirechkoi-Hortakoi Military Cemetery, Greece G 02 Grave 27 BO 6-11-17 Ellon info AFC City & Ellon


Neilson Rolland Miller Cpl 240041 MiD 5th Gordon Highlanders b Montrose e Ellon Age 26 Killed in Action F & F 13-Apr-18 Son of James & Christina (nee Hadden) Neilson, 7 Station Rd; Ellon, Aberdeenshire. Voters 18/19 James (Postman) & Christina Neilson. "Buchan Observer: 1914: The Square, Ellon. "E" Coy: No 549. Also MSM. Brother Charles & James Hadden also killed.Was employed as a tailor with Mr Littlejohn, Market St; Ellon. Three brothers died. Voters 18/19 Bertie C (a) Postman. Ploegsteert Memorial M. R. 32 Panel 9 Ellon

Name: NEILSON, WILLIAM
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Corporal
Regiment/Service: Gordon Highlanders
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Age: 36
Date of Death: 12/06/1940
Service No: 2872687
Additional information: Son of James and Christina Neilson, of Ellon; husband of Gladys Neilson, of Aberdeen. His brothers Charles and Rolland, both fell serving in the same unit during the 1914-18 War.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Row 1, Grave 4.
Cemetery: MANNEVILLE-ES-PLAINS CHURCHYARD
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