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spoons

I have decided to feature Adam Byers in my talk to the school for remembrance day. I have his service record, a group photo and the entry from the bn war diary. Does anyone else happen to have anything of interest? Is there a Regimental memorial that he might be on somewhere?

He was the only man of his Bn who died on that day (28th May 1916 near Hulluch) so it is a touch of 'All quiet on the western front'.

\Paul

anne park · Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: Adam Byers info from CWGC

Name: BYERS, ADAM
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lance Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Cameron Highlanders
Unit Text: 7th Bn.
Age: 27
Date of Death: 28/05/1916
Service No: S/13596
Additional information: Son of Sarah Byers, of Glenshimmeroch, Dalry, Kirkcudbrightshire, and the late William Byers.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 119 to 124.
Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL

Stewartry · Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 274 Location: nr Nottingham

Do you have a copy of the article in the local newspaper reporting his death?

Stuart
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spoons · Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:09 pm Post subject:

yes thanks, I have obits and photos from D&G standard and Kirkcudbrightshire Advertiser.

\Paul

Jim · Joined: 30 May 2008 Posts: 195

If I may ask; Anne has posted this chap's rank as Lance Serjeant whilst the image above mentions L-Sgt (presumably Sergeant).

Are the words simply interchangeable? I'd always believed it had something to do with traditional usage within a particular regiment or corps.

Thanks,

Jim

Adam Brown · Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject:

Jim

As far as I know Serjeant was the official spelling in the Army but Sergeant was in common useage and the two are interchangeable. It may well have been a regimental decision which spelling to use.

In CWGC they use Serjeant for the First World War and Sergeant for the second.

A Lance Sergeant can also be seen as L/Sgt or L/Sjt. They were senior corporals acting as sergeants.

Regards

Adam

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spoons · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:44 pm Post subject:

In the present day, Serjeant (with a j) is still used by the Guards Regiments and the Serjeant at Arms in the House of Commons but I think everyone else has gone over to Sergeant.

\Paul

spoons · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:47 pm Post subject:

By an amazing coincidence, Teddy mailed me saying she had met Byers Gt Nephew who was looking for info on him. We have been in touch and I will post the info I have on Adam Byers on the New Galloway thread after 11th November.

\Paul