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Keptie
Joined: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 350 Location: Angus
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:43 pm Post subject: Alma Works & Netherward Works , ARBROATH |
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The Alma Works & Netherward Works, ARBROATH were closed down /demolished and the Stone Memorial was delivered for safe custody to the Signal Tower Musuem , Arbroath which was nearby the Works. Delivery to the Angus Council - Signal Tower Musuem would be a short time before seen at the Premises during a date in APRIL 1993 .
The heavy stone section War Memorial was positioned outside the main Signal Tower but within the enclosed yard of the Museum .
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Keptie
Joined: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 350 Location: Angus
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:49 pm Post subject: Alma Works & Netherward Works , Arbroath |
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The War Memorial was coloured grey with black lettering . The memorial was headed with the words, " ALMA WORKS "
Then rank , full name of casualty , year of death , Battalion and Regiment / Corps served and the first casualty listed attached Battalion and Regiment.
The lower part of the memorial is headed " NETHERWARD WORKS " and has again Rank , full name of casualty , Regiment or Corps and year of death .
No other wording on the Memorial
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Patrick w . Anderson
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Keptie
Joined: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 350 Location: Angus
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:13 pm Post subject: Alma Works & Netherward Works , Arbroath |
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" ALMA WORKS ":
2nd Lieut Joseph Frain WEBSTER , 1914 , 3rd Black Watch att 2nd Gordon Highlanders .
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Corpl John HAGAN , 5th Black Watch , 1915.
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Able Seaman Lawrence WILLIAMSON , Royal Naval Division , 1916.
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Driver Fred PRINGLE , Royal Field Artillery, 1917.
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Pte John McDONALD , 7th Black Watch , 1917.
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Pte Allan PATTULLO , 3rd Black Watch , 1917.
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Lance Corporal James BOYLE , Highland Light Infantry , 1917.
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Pte James Chalmers STARK , 10th Royal Scots, 1918 .
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Gunner Edward B. WILLIAMSON, Royal Field Artillery , 1918.
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on lower section of this same stone war memorial was the following :
"NETHERWARD WORKS "
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Gr David WYLLIE , Royal Field Artillery , 1918.
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Seaman Robert SWANKIE , Royal Navy , 1919 .
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Keptie
Joined: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 350 Location: Angus
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:44 am Post subject: Alma works Arbroath |
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Listed on the UK National Inventory War Memorials register as number 5667.
patrick w. anderson
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Keptie
Joined: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 350 Location: Angus
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject: Alma Works & Netherward Works ARBROATH |
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The Alma Works and Netherward Works , Arbroath were owned until the recent years by the Webster family . Now demolished .
The firms were owned initially by Sir Francis Webster & Lady Webster of Ashbrook House , Arbroath and their son, 2nd Lieut Joseph Frain Webster , 3rd Bn Black Watch attd 2nd Bn Gordon Hdrs (mentioned in Despatches) had been employed at the Alma Works . 2nd Lieut J F Webster was killed 30th December 1914 aged 21 years . He has no known grave and is listed on Ypres Menin Gate Memorial ( Panel 57 - under Black Watch section ) .
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john burnett
Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 483 Location: Fife
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:05 pm Post subject: Alma |
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Thanks to Pat Anderson for the photo.
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Keptie
Joined: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 350 Location: Angus
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:12 pm Post subject: Alma Works ARBROATH |
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| Thanks to John Burnett for his kindness in adding my pics to the website . This pic was taken from an old photograph taken April 1993 of the Memorial lying at the Signal Tower Museum at Arbroath having just been delivered for their Safe Keeping . The then Curator , Margaret King told me of its presence so I went outside and photographed it in situ : a heavy item of granite . |
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FortyTwa
Joined: 12 May 2009 Posts: 14 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:25 am Post subject: |
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Any idea where it is now Pat?
Both myself and DelBoy have drawn a blank at the Signal Tower |
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Adam Brown The Boss

Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 3764 Location: Edinburgh (From Sutherland)
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:56 am Post subject: |
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The CWGC details of 2nd Lt Webster
WEBSTER, JOSEPH FRAIN
Initials: J F
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 3rd Bn.
Secondary Regiment: Gordon Highlanders
Secondary Unit Text: attd. 2nd Bn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 30/10/1914
Awards: Mentioned in Despatches
Additional information: Son of the late Sir Francis Webster, St., and Lady Webster, of Ashbrook, Arbroath.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Addenda Panel 57.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL
Another entry caught my eye. 10th Royal Scots in 1918. 2/10th Bn Royal Scots was part of the force sent to North Russia by the Allies in 1918-1919. This man died during that expedition and is listed on the Archangel Memorial.
STARK, JAMES CHALMERS
Initials: J C
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots
Unit Text: 2nd/10th Bn.
Age: 18
Date of Death: 27/10/1918
Service No: 66358
Additional information: Son of Mrs. Mary McC. Stark, of 43, Cairnie St., Arbroath, Forfarshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Memorial: ARCHANGEL MEMORIAL _________________ Scottish Monuments & Memorials |
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Keptie
Joined: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 350 Location: Angus
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:21 pm Post subject: Alma Works Arbroath |
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2nd Lieut J F Webster, Black Watch att Gordon Highlanders is commemorated in Arbroath by the WEBSTER MEMORIAL HALL , High Street , Arbroath as his parents Sir & Lady Webster donated the money for the Memorial Hall in his name . They donated a Photograph of 2nd Lieut J F Webster which sits in the building to this day. The Webster Memorial Hall is now known as the Webster Memorial Theatre .
2nd Lieut J F Webster was the first former pupil of the Arbroath High School to fall in action in the Great War viz 1914 . His name is listed on the 1915 Arbroath High School magazine casualties from the school from the Outbreak of War to June 1915 .( Arbroath High School Magazine : Vol IV No 4 June 195 : price 3 d ) He is listed as Killed in Action :
Second Lieutenant J F Webster, 2nd Bn Gordon Highlanders .
Patrick w anderson
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