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ARBROATH, Erskine UF Church, plaque (WW1)
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:53 am    Post subject: ARBROATH, Erskine UF Church, plaque (WW1) Reply with quote

This memorial remembers those of an unknown church who died in WW1.
It is now in The West Kirk on Keptie Road, Arbroath.

UKNIWM No: unlisted
OS MAP REF: NO 636 410



ERECTED WITH THE
LECTERN IN THE CHURCH
TO THE GLORY OF GOD
AND IN LOVING MEMORY
OF OUR GALLANT DEAD

Edwin Thomson died 12th March 1915
Norman J.A. Smith died 11th April 1915
Edward MacLure died 21st Jan 1916
John B. Fairweather died 14th April 1917
James Fairweather died 23rd April 1917
William Bennett died 3rd August 1917
John S. Boath died 4th Feb 1919
Alexander M. Wallace died 5th June 1919


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 11:14 am    Post subject: Cpl. Edwin Thomson Reply with quote

CWGC
Name: THOMSON, EDWIN
Initials: E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Corporal
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 1st/5th Bn.
Age: 30
Date of Death: 12/03/1915
Service No: 2265
Additional information: Son of David and Mary Ann Jack Thomson, of 100, High St., Arbroath.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. D. 2.
Cemetery: ESTAIRES COMMUNAL CEMETERY AND EXTENSION

SNWM
Surname: THOMSON
Firstname: Edwin
Service Number: 2265
Date Death: 12/03/1915
Place of birth: Arbroath Forfarshire
Other: 5th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank: Cpl


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 11:15 am    Post subject: Pte. Norman James Adam Smith Reply with quote

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Name: SMITH, NORMAN JAMES ADAM
Initials: N J A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Age: 20
Date of Death: 11/04/1915
Service No: 2370
Additional information: Son of Alexander Sorley Smith and Kathrine Farquhar Smith, of "Lyndhurst." I, Dalhousie Place, Arbroath.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. A. 1.
Cemetery: SAILLY-SUR-LA-LYS CANADIAN CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: SMITH
Firstname: Norman J A
Service Number: 2370
Date Death: 11/04/1915
Place of birth: Arbroath
Other: 5th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank: Pte


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 11:17 am    Post subject: Pte. Edward MacClure Reply with quote

CWGC
Name: MACLURE, EDWARD
Initials: E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 21/01/1916
Service No: S/6958
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. John M. Maclure, of 3, Fergus Square, Arbroath, Forfarshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 25 and 63.
Memorial: BASRA MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: MACLURE
Firstname: Edward
Service Number: S/6958
Date Death: 21/01/1916
Place of birth: Arbroath
Other: 2nd Bn.
SNWM roll: THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank: Pte


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:37 pm    Post subject: Sjt. John B. Fairweather M.M. Reply with quote

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Name: FAIRWEATHER, JOHN B
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots
Unit Text: 11th Bn.
Date of Death: 14/04/1917
Service No: 9951
Awards: M M (Military Medal)
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. E. 36.
Cemetery: AUBIGNY COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION

SNWM
Surname: FAIRWEATHER
Firstname: John
Service Number: 9951
Date Death: 14/04/1917
Decoration: M.M.
Place of birth: Arbroath
Other: 11th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ROYAL SCOTS (LOTHIAN REGIMENT)
Rank: Sgt


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Pte. James Fairweather Reply with quote

CWGC
Name: FAIRWEATHER, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 1st/7th Bn.
Age: 25
Date of Death: 25/04/1917
Service No: 292404
Additional information: Son of the late John Fairweather and of Mary Dalrymple Fairweather, of 13, Guthrie Port, Arbroath, Forfarshire; husband of Jean Bremner Cargill (formerly Fairweather).
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. B. 45.
Cemetery: BROWN'S COPSE CEMETERY, ROEUX

SNWM
Surname: FAIRWEATHER
Firstname: James
Service Number: 292404
Date Death: 25/04/1917
Place of birth: Arbroath
Other: 7th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank: Pte


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:46 pm    Post subject: Pte. William Bennett Reply with quote

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Name: BENNETT, WILLIAM
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 4th/5th Bn.
Date of Death: 31/07/1917
Service No: 200676
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 37.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: BENNETT
Firstname: William
Service Number: 200676
Date Death: 31/07/1917
Place of birth: Dundee
Other: 4/5th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank: Pte

a few days d.o.d. diffeence, but it's the only William Bennet in B.W.


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:49 pm    Post subject: Pte. John Scott Boath Reply with quote

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Name: BOATH, JOHN SCOTT
Initials: J S
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 3rd/5th Bn.
Secondary Regiment: Labour Corps
Secondary Unit Text: transf. to (262469) 450th Home Service Employment Coy.
Age: 42
Date of Death: 04/02/1919
Service No: 3850
Additional information: Son of the late William and Helen Mill Boath; husband of Elizabeth Whytock Boath, of 28, Bank St., Arbroath.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: P. 109.
Cemetery: ARBROATH WESTERN CEMETERY

SNWM
unlisted


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:50 pm    Post subject: Ftr.Cpl. Alexander Murray Wallace Reply with quote

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Name: WALLACE, ALEXANDER M
Initials: A M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Fitter Corporal
Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text: 262nd Bde.
Age: 28
Date of Death: 05/06/1919
Service No: 660379
Additional information: Son of James Wallace, of 42, Elliot St., Arbroath, Forfarshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: P. 34.
Cemetery: CAIRO WAR MEMORIAL CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: WALLACE
Firstname: Alexander Murray
Service Number: 1283
Date Death: 05/06/1919
Place of birth: Arbroath
SNWM roll: ROYAL HORSE AND ROYAL FIELD ARTILLERY
Rank: Ftr

After checking war return it appears he died of typhus. SNWM have his earlier service number.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delboy,

I note this memorial is now located in Arbroath West Church. The West Church website states;

1920 War Memorial to the Great War Dedicated in the sanctuary.

Did you get any pics of the West Church congregation memorials?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This I Believe is it Paul.

The minister was the one who showed me which memorials came from which now closed churches. They are up in their own threads already.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DelBoy,

Thanks. I dug around and saw that Arbroath West was formerly St. Margaret's which you have posted and mention in the thread. These church name changes and mergers are confusing.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noted that Ladyloan Parish Church united with the former Ladyloan Free Church in 1941, the former building being demolished.
Do we have any definite information that would tell us from which congregation this plaque is from?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, no.

But I can check newspaper reports next time I'm in the Library. My info as to what memorial came from what church was from the minister. But he just said that it came from the Ladyloan church that was most recently demolished.

If I find something I'll let you know.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Derek,

A newspaper report may tell us one way or another. AK Bell in Perth have an index to some of their newspapers which refer to various war memorials. Perhaps the library at Arbroath have also done this.

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