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teddy
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 Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:42 pm Post subject: Thornhill WM, Dumfriesshire |
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Can anyone help me complete details for the above WM please? The following all from WW1 are:
1) Pr. George C. Baird, RGA.
2) Serg. John Black, KOSB
3) Pr. Archibald Hutchinson, KOSB
4) L/Col. James M. Hannah, Gordons.
5) Pr. John Mitchell, KOSB
6) Pr. Andrew Pattison, KOSB
7) Pr. James Robertson, RS.
Any information will be greatfully received.
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Stewartry
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Hi Teddy,
Name: HUTCHISON, ARCHIBALD
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Age: 20
Date of Death: 03/09/1916
Service No: 17396
Additional information: Son of Archibald and Margaret Hutchison, of 10, West Morton St., Thornhill, Dumfriesshire.
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 4 A and 4 D.
Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
Sgt John Black, KOSB rings a bell, but I can't place him at the moment. The only John Mitchell, KOSB (#981) I have details on had Wanlockhead and Moffat connections.
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Stewartry
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Name: PATTINSON
Initials: A
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry
Unit Text: 8th Bn.
Age: 43
Date of Death: 17/09/1917
Service No: 38358
Additional information: Son of Alexander Pattinson, of Burn Brae, Thornhill, Dumfriesshire.
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. N. 1.
Cemetery: RAILWAY DUGOUTS BURIAL GROUND
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teddy
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:39 pm Post subject: Thornhill WM, Dumftiesshire Archie Hutchinson |
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Stewarty,
Many thanks for the information re above, I have found family grave in Old Morton Cemetery, Thornhill, son of Archibald Hutchinson and Margaret Hastings Bayford, have photo of grave.
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anne park
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:44 pm Post subject: Only James Hannah on my database |
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| Hannah James Pte 494 7th Gordon Highlanders b Old Machar e Portlethen Age 24 Killed in Action F & F 25-Oct-16 Son of Mrs E Hannah, 33 Bloomfield Rd; Aberdeen. City Roll of Honour. "A" Coy. Forceville Communal Cemetery Extension Fr 0002 Plot III Row C Grave 12 |
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teddy
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:44 pm Post subject: Thornhill WM, Dumftiesshire Andrew Pattison |
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Stewarty,
Many thanks for information.
I have found family grave in Old Morton Cemetery, son of Alexander Pattison and the late Annie Burns (Annie died 3/4/1916) Have photo of grave.
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teddy
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:58 pm Post subject: Thornhill WM, Dumftiesshire L/Cor. James Hannah |
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Anne,
Many thanks for information, but do not think this is my man.
Found James Hannah, Service No S/11551 died 16/6/1917 from 1st Bn Gordon Higlanders, Memorial Arras, on the cwgc and on snwn - born Girchon, Kirkcudbright and death at F & F.
As born in Dumfriesshire, I think this is my man.
Teddy
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kinnethmont
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:13 pm Post subject: S/11551 L/Cpl James M Hannah, Thornhill |
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Teddy
S/11551 is the man you are after, as you correctly surmised he has a local connection.
S/11551 L/Cpl James Murray Hannah was in the Lewis Gun section, 13 Platoon, "D" Company of the 1st Gordon Highlanders.
He was the son of Peter and Jeannie Hannah of Parton, Kircudbrightshire and husband of Jeannie Miller, Gatelawbridge, Thornhill. They had seven children.
He was a 32 year old shepherd at Mitchellslacks, Thornhill when he attested at Dumfries on 1st Feb 1916. He was mobilised on 20th March and reported at Berwick the following day. He landed in France on 7th July 1916. He was KIA on 16th June 1917, shot through the head by a sniper in the area of Infantry Hill near Monchy-le-Preux.
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teddy
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:49 pm Post subject: Thornhill WM, Dumftiesshire L/Cor. James Hannah |
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Jim,
Thanks for confirmation that S/11551 is my man.
Also greatfull for the additional information.
Thanks for the time.
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Stewartry
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:25 pm Post subject: S/11551 L/Cpl James M Hannah, Thornhill |
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Also has an individual memorial inside Parton Church. This other thread also contains a little extra information.
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kinnethmont
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | 1) Pr. George C. Baird, RGA. |
Teddy
I am fairly certain this man will be Gnr. 74631 Geo Cranston Baird R.G.A.
I cannot find anything to link him to Thornhill, if you are aware of one or know where he is buried please send me a PM.
This man was medically discharged on 7th August 1918 and died on the 23rd at Cambuslang of war related causes. His NOK was his brother residing there.
I have enough conclusive evidence to present a case to CWGC / MOD to have him accepted as a war casualty.
Update: Case submitted 19th March
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kinnethmont
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| Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:06 pm Post subject: S/11551 L/Cpl James M Hannah, Thornhill |
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Teddy
There is a James Hannah, Gordon Highlanders on the Closeburn memorial & Roll. It is likely to be the same man.
2) Serg. John Black, KOSB
I checked the memorial and found John Black is not KOSB.
This looks like him. He was born Morton, resided Thornhill, enlisted at Dumfries and an A/Sgt
Name: BLACK, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Cameron Highlanders
Unit Text: 6th Bn.
Age: 26
Date of Death: 12/10/1916
Service No: 17527
Additional information: Son of Mrs. Christina Black, of The Museum, Thornhill, Dumfriesshire, and the late John Black.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. K. 10.
Cemetery: ADANAC MILITARY CEMETERY, MIRAUMONT
This MIGHT be John Mitchell but you would need more to confirm 100%. SDGW have him born and enlisted Dumfries, residing Kirkconnel
Name: MITCHELL, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Date of Death: 30/07/1916
Service No: 22799
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 4 A and 4 D.
Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
Could this be Robertson? Again you need evidence to link him to Thornhill.
Name: ROBERTSON, JAMES STEWART
Initials: J S
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots
Unit Text: 9th Bn.
Age: 18
Date of Death: 13/04/1918
Service No: 58943
Additional information: Son of John and Alice Robertson, of Bowhouses, Terregles, Dumfries.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 1.
Memorial: PLOEGSTEERT MEMORIAL
He was formerly 2/13578 T.R. Bn., 53257 H.L.I.
SDGW has him born and residing Terregles, enlisted Dumfries, KIA
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teddy
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| Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:07 pm Post subject: Thornhill WM, Dumftiesshire Pr. George C. Baird. |
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Jim,
Thanks for information, yes correct I think right man.
Found in Dumfries and Standard paper dated 7/9/1918 a death notice as follows:
Baird on the 23rd August at Cambusiang, Glasgow George youngest son of the late David Bair, Garroch, Thornhill.
If you have more information please send.
Many thanks.
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teddy
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| Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:14 pm Post subject: Thornhill WM Re Serg John Black KOSB |
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Jim,
Thanks for the information regarding above.
We have two Serg. John Black on the Thornhill WM,
one which you state as Serg John Black from 6th Bn Cameron Higlanders Service No 17527 death 12/10/1916
and
two Serg John Black from KOSB which I cannot find.
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